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Without government, how will 90% of the populace smoke weed all night and sleep all day?
Topic Started: Apr 21 2016, 09:41 PM (3,572 Views)
ringotuna
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Adolph Hipster
Apr 26 2016, 06:19 PM
ringotuna
Apr 26 2016, 05:10 PM
Opinionated
Apr 26 2016, 04:19 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep"Altman argued basic income could support huge amounts of productivity loss and still carry the economy on its shoulders.
You've touted the idea throughout the thread, so step up. Tell us how this utopian fantasy will work and spare no detail.
Paul went to the John and said "By George, where did my Ringo?"
That's nice Tik, but is it a marketable commodity? A product which will lift one above the basic government sustenance allowance? ;)
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ringotuna
Apr 26 2016, 07:31 PM
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Apr 26 2016, 07:09 PM
ringotuna
Apr 26 2016, 06:25 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep"Altman argued basic income could support huge amounts of productivity loss and still carry the economy on its shoulders.
Feel free to tip on your way out.
Happily. Your little dance was well worth it.
Is it enough to elevate me above the basic government sustenance allowance?
Edited by Opinionated, Apr 26 2016, 08:46 PM.
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Apr 26 2016, 08:46 PM
ringotuna
Apr 26 2016, 07:31 PM
Opinionated
Apr 26 2016, 07:09 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep"Altman argued basic income could support huge amounts of productivity loss and still carry the economy on its shoulders.
Happily. Your little dance was well worth it.
Is it enough to elevate me above the basic government sustenance allowance?
Pretty sure you will always be on the gov't teat...
Only liberals can choose not to go down the road to widespread, systematic violence.
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Apr 26 2016, 08:46 PM
ringotuna
Apr 26 2016, 07:31 PM
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Apr 26 2016, 07:09 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep"Altman argued basic income could support huge amounts of productivity loss and still carry the economy on its shoulders.
Happily. Your little dance was well worth it.
Is it enough to elevate me above the basic government sustenance allowance?
Rattle your cup...I'll drop another quarter in it. :biggrin:
Ringoism: Never underestimate the advantages of being underestimated.
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Apr 26 2016, 09:11 PM
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Apr 26 2016, 08:46 PM
ringotuna
Apr 26 2016, 07:31 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep"Altman argued basic income could support huge amounts of productivity loss and still carry the economy on its shoulders.
Is it enough to elevate me above the basic government sustenance allowance?
Pretty sure you will always be on the gov't teat...
Eventually, pretty much all of us will, unless you're going to refuse to accept your social security check.

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Apr 26 2016, 10:20 PM
clone
Apr 26 2016, 09:11 PM
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Apr 26 2016, 08:46 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep"Altman argued basic income could support huge amounts of productivity loss and still carry the economy on its shoulders.
Pretty sure you will always be on the gov't teat...
Eventually, pretty much all of us will, unless you're going to refuse to accept your social security check.

:rotflmao:
Who the heck is counting on Social Security....that's a fools errand...
Edited by clone, Apr 26 2016, 10:25 PM.
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Take away the free ambulance ride and I'll guarantee you drug related death and OD will decline.
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Apr 26 2016, 10:24 PM
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Apr 26 2016, 10:20 PM
clone
Apr 26 2016, 09:11 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep"Altman argued basic income could support huge amounts of productivity loss and still carry the economy on its shoulders.
Eventually, pretty much all of us will, unless you're going to refuse to accept your social security check.

:rotflmao:
Who the heck is counting on Social Security....that's a fools errand...
Yeah, but you'll STILL take the money. You're that kind. You'll come up with excuses to justify it, but you'll be on the teat just like everyone else. :victory:
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Apr 26 2016, 10:26 PM
Take away the free ambulance ride and I'll guarantee you drug related death and OD will decline.
Uhhh..what are you babbling about?
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Adolph Hipster
Apr 26 2016, 11:07 PM
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Apr 26 2016, 10:26 PM
Take away the free ambulance ride and I'll guarantee you drug related death and OD will decline.
Uhhh..what are you babbling about?
I agree...The addict is usually already dead when his buddies throw him out on the curb and call the Fire Department............. :biggrin:
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Social Security is now the government teat?
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ringotuna
Apr 27 2016, 05:30 AM
Social Security is now the government teat?
The government took our "contributions" and turned them into a flat tax that the rich were not subject to....Then they spent it like general revenue and gave the trust fund questionable Treasury bonds that cannot be sold...As victims of massive theft many will be on the government teat........... :wah:
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Robert Stout
Apr 27 2016, 05:53 AM
ringotuna
Apr 27 2016, 05:30 AM
Social Security is now the government teat?
The government took our "contributions" and turned them into a flat tax that the rich were not subject to....Then they spent it like general revenue and gave the trust fund questionable Treasury bonds that cannot be sold...As victims of massive theft many will be on the government teat........... :wah:
It seems a lot less like a 'gubmint teat' than it does a mandatory investment with a pretty piss poor ROI.

Funny how it's a sugar teat when it fits the narrative though...right?
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ringotuna
Apr 27 2016, 05:30 AM
Social Security is now the government teat?
Your fellow conservatives frequently characterize all "entitlements" as being on the "government teat". Social Security is an entitlement. One of which many of your fellow conservatives claim is "insolvent" and which needs to be massively scaled back, eliminated, or better yet from their perspective, privatized. Because if there is one group you can trust with your retirement money less than the government, that's Wall Street.
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ringotuna
Apr 27 2016, 05:30 AM
Social Security is now the government teat?
For some it would be - especially those collecting disability long before 67 or whatever the cut off age is.

For the rest I would say that it is legitimate retribution for taxes payed. that said I believe a majority would cash in their SS and place it in funds, like they do in the libertarian country of Sweden. ;)
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Apr 27 2016, 01:02 PM
ringotuna
Apr 27 2016, 05:30 AM
Social Security is now the government teat?
For some it would be - especially those collecting disability long before 67 or whatever the cut off age is.

For the rest I would say that it is legitimate retribution for taxes payed. that said I believe a majority would cash in their SS and place it in funds, like they do in the libertarian country of Sweden. ;)
Or allow unused portion to go to your heirs...
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Let's be honest. If social security were done away a significant number wouldn't save for retirement and would blow their money on weekend flights to Vegas
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Apr 27 2016, 01:14 PM
Let's be honest. If social security were done away a significant number wouldn't save for retirement and would blow their money on weekend flights to Vegas
If anything - government retirement should be handled by individual states. If I do not want to pay into government retirement, then I vote with my feet.

Social security at the federal level is insolvent like everything else, and will be paid using funny money/t-bill transactions.

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estonianman
Apr 27 2016, 01:49 PM
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Apr 27 2016, 01:14 PM
Let's be honest. If social security were done away a significant number wouldn't save for retirement and would blow their money on weekend flights to Vegas
If anything - government retirement should be handled by individual states. If I do not want to pay into government retirement, then I vote with my feet.

Social security at the federal level is insolvent like everything else, and will be paid using funny money/t-bill transactions.

States and municipalities had that option until Congress closed the opt-out loophole in 83.

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Apr 27 2016, 07:29 AM
ringotuna
Apr 27 2016, 05:30 AM
Social Security is now the government teat?
Your fellow conservatives frequently characterize all "entitlements" as being on the "government teat". Social Security is an entitlement. One of which many of your fellow conservatives claim is "insolvent" and which needs to be massively scaled back, eliminated, or better yet from their perspective, privatized. Because if there is one group you can trust with your retirement money less than the government, that's Wall Street.
Not unlike how your compatriots characterize it as "Welfare" when comparing Red & Blue state federal tax ratios. Believe me my "Wall Street" run portfolio is a hell of a lot fatter than my government run account.
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