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Trump begins plans to exploit Sanders supporters
Topic Started: Apr 29 2016, 01:41 PM (2,521 Views)
Two a.m.
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I personally know at least two conservatives who will be voting for Clinton because Trump totally scares the hell out of them. One voted Cruz in the primary. The other - rather surprisingly - crossed over and voted Bernie.

More important though may be the number of conservatives who passively sit on their hands or vote third party. Those won't cast a ballot for Hillary but they won't back the GOP nominee either.
Edited by Two a.m., Apr 29 2016, 05:24 PM.
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Apr 29 2016, 04:34 PM
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Apr 29 2016, 04:31 PM
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Apr 29 2016, 04:29 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deephttp://www.cnn.com/2016/04/29/politics/donald-trump-bernie-sanders/index.htmlhttp://www.politicususa.com/2016/04/25/bombshell-poll-20-republicans-vote-hillary-clinton-trump-wins.htmlhttp://www.facebook.com/foxnews <--- you can see the Conservative's comments here. I wouldn't need to hold anyone's hand to point out specific comments, but you can look for yourself and see their general trend.

The main reason for Republicans to be against Trump is that he's a liberal, a fact that is not hard to dig up if you look into his past with Google. That's not a reason for them to vote for Hillary.
I'll accept any vote that comes her way as a win, friend.
Why do you support her? Her issues and integrity? Or I'm guessing most likely because she's a woman and you're a woman too. Is that speculation accurate?

I don't have anything against women, but gender is not a reason for me to vote for anyone. If Elizabeth Warren ran instead of Bernie, I would be equally enthusiastic about voting for her.
I support her because she has the best combination of known skills to run the country. She knows her way around the White House and that bureaucracy. She has been a Senator and she has been Secretary of State.
She has also been fire tested and heavily vetted by political enemies and survived all of that.
I think she will be tough and I think she is ruthless in her politics. I think she is the toughest candidate in the whole election. Her sex is not a part of that equation.
I'm not a woman, I'm an old white guy.

She isn't promising what she cannot deliver. She is an incrementalist, and I think that is important.
Edited by CautionaryTales, Apr 29 2016, 05:37 PM.


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Apr 29 2016, 03:52 PM
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Apr 29 2016, 02:29 PM
Two a.m.
Apr 29 2016, 01:41 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/29/politics/donald-trump-bernie-sanders/index.html

"I think Bernie Sanders should run as an independent. I think he'd do great," Trump said at a victory rally in New York City Tuesday night, after sweeping five GOP contests in the Northeast.

The next morning, Trump said on MSNBC: "Bernie Sanders has a message that's interesting. I'm going to be taking a lot of the things Bernie said and using them."
There are a few very loud stray lambs wandering round p.comland that are ready to join up with Trump.
A few other former Republicans will be quietly voting for Clinton and that's gonna show up when the votes are counted.
I'll bet there are more Republicans quietly fixing to vote Clinton than there are Sanders voters willing to vote for Trump.
Name one Republican here voting for Clinton, because that's the very first time I heard that.

Why would they be so quiet? They wouldn't durrr.
Yes they would. They wouldn't want to be harassed by Bernie zealots or their fellow Republicans and/or conservatives.

Not everyone has a touch of tourette's about their politics ... :biggrin:

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Apr 29 2016, 05:35 PM
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Apr 29 2016, 04:34 PM
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Apr 29 2016, 04:31 PM
Why do you support her? Her issues and integrity? Or I'm guessing most likely because she's a woman and you're a woman too. Is that speculation accurate?

I don't have anything against women, but gender is not a reason for me to vote for anyone. If Elizabeth Warren ran instead of Bernie, I would be equally enthusiastic about voting for her.
I support her because she has the best combination of known skills to run the country. She knows her way around the White House and that bureaucracy. She has been a Senator and she has been Secretary of State.
She has also been fire tested and heavily vetted by political enemies and survived all of that.
I think she will be tough and I think she is ruthless in her politics. I think she is the toughest candidate in the whole election. Her sex is not a part of that equation.
I'm not a woman, I'm an old white guy.

She isn't promising what she cannot deliver. She is an incrementalist, and I think that is important.
What you haven't considered is that intelligence without integrity is dangerous. History both ancient and modern is full of dictators and other tyrants who can be the smartest in the world with the most experience, but are in it only for themselves or a select few whom they owe. What makes you think she's acting in the best interest for you when she flip-flops her position commonly?
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Apr 29 2016, 05:38 PM
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Name one Republican here voting for Clinton, because that's the very first time I heard that.

Why would they be so quiet? They wouldn't durrr.
Yes they would. They wouldn't want to be harassed by Bernie zealots or their fellow Republicans and/or conservatives.

Not everyone has a touch of tourette's about their politics ... :biggrin:

So basically they have no backbone. I have a Bernie sticker on my car, and this is the internet.
Edited by Eddo26, Apr 29 2016, 06:00 PM.
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Apr 29 2016, 05:56 PM
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I support her because she has the best combination of known skills to run the country. She knows her way around the White House and that bureaucracy. She has been a Senator and she has been Secretary of State.
She has also been fire tested and heavily vetted by political enemies and survived all of that.
I think she will be tough and I think she is ruthless in her politics. I think she is the toughest candidate in the whole election. Her sex is not a part of that equation.
I'm not a woman, I'm an old white guy.

She isn't promising what she cannot deliver. She is an incrementalist, and I think that is important.
What you haven't considered is that intelligence without integrity is dangerous. History both ancient and modern is full of dictators and other tyrants who can be the smartest in the world with the most experience, but are in it only for themselves or a select few whom they owe. What makes you think she's acting in the best interest for you when she flip-flops her position commonly?
What you apparently haven't counted on is that you will have two choices.
Mother Teresa isn't one of them.

It will be Clinton or Trump
Period.


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What you haven't considered is that intelligence without integrity is dangerous. History both ancient and modern is full of dictators and other tyrants who can be the smartest in the world with the most experience, but are in it only for themselves or a select few whom they owe. What makes you think she's acting in the best interest for you when she flip-flops her position commonly?
What you apparently haven't counted on is that you will have two choices.
Mother Teresa isn't one of them.

It will be Clinton or Trump
Period.
There are better choices, but I'd take the liberal who is party leader of the GOP and split them into two (as he's already doing so) so they're be out of voting power for future elections.
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Apr 29 2016, 03:33 PM
Trump still has time to improve his image, Hillary is becoming practically intolerable to half of her own party. The trend lines of both these candidates are going in opposite dire tions; Trump up, Hillary down
Yes, we know, you are a Trump supporter.
Got it.
No, Im anti-Hillary, and Ive explained already how her defeat will end up good for the party, the country and the world
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Apr 29 2016, 06:02 PM
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What you apparently haven't counted on is that you will have two choices.
Mother Teresa isn't one of them.

It will be Clinton or Trump
Period.
There are better choices, but I'd take the liberal who is party leader of the GOP and split them into two (as he's already doing so) so they're be out of voting power for future elections.
If you're are thinking that Trump is some sort of liberal plant, you are a bigger sucker than I thought you were.


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Apr 29 2016, 06:06 PM
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Trump still has time to improve his image, Hillary is becoming practically intolerable to half of her own party. The trend lines of both these candidates are going in opposite dire tions; Trump up, Hillary down
Yes, we know, you are a Trump supporter.
Got it.
No, Im anti-Hillary, and Ive explained already how her defeat will end up good for the party, the country and the world
Her "defeat" comes with the problem of a President Trump.
Trump is not a good alternative.

If you think so, you haven't been paying attention.


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Apr 29 2016, 06:09 PM
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There are better choices, but I'd take the liberal who is party leader of the GOP and split them into two (as he's already doing so) so they're be out of voting power for future elections.
If you're are thinking that Trump is some sort of liberal plant, you are a bigger sucker than I thought you were.
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Just watch the whole one minute.
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Seventeen years old. Sheesh. Not you, the video.
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Apr 29 2016, 05:24 PM
I personally know at least two conservatives who will be voting for Clinton because Trump totally scares the hell out of them. One voted Cruz in the primary. The other - rather surprisingly - crossed over and voted Bernie.

More important though may be the number of conservatives who passively sit on their hands or vote third party. Those won't cast a ballot for Hillary but they won't back the GOP nominee either.
I'll bite the bullet and pull the lever for Billy's Bottom B!tch if the only alternative is Trump or Cruz.
Or we could all just vote for Ringo. :biggrin:
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Apr 29 2016, 06:18 PM
Seventeen years old. Sheesh. Not you, the video.
People never change at that age.
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Trump represents a change from liberal or conservative politics. The new paradigm is globalism vs nationalism.
Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary.
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Apr 29 2016, 07:06 PM
Trump represents a change from liberal or conservative politics. The new paradigm is globalism vs nationalism.
A little long for a bumper sticker, but if the music is good it might work.


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Seventeen years old. Sheesh. Not you, the video.
People never change at that age.
People change over time no matter what their age.

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No, Im anti-Hillary, and Ive explained already how her defeat will end up good for the party, the country and the world
Her "defeat" comes with the problem of a President Trump.
Trump is not a good alternative.

If you think so, you haven't been paying attention.
So if Trump beats Hillary, what do you intend to do about it?
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Her "defeat" comes with the problem of a President Trump.
Trump is not a good alternative.

If you think so, you haven't been paying attention.
So if Trump beats Hillary, what do you intend to do about it?
I will be voting for the candidate that opposes him.
That's what I can do.

If he wins, I'll watch as he loads the SCOTUS with his friends, hopefully they will be judges and not just actors that play them on TV.
I'll know that it wasn't my sitting on my hands that put Trump in office, I'll know it was guys like you that refused to vote against him.
As much as you bleat that it isn't your fault, you will know you are lying.


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