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Proof That Donald Trump IS THE REAL DEAL!
Topic Started: May 5 2016, 11:54 AM (4,219 Views)
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May 26 2016, 09:34 AM
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Trump also has had long-standing business connections to the Chinese, and isn't quiet about it.
I did not mention it because there is a huge difference ethically between a person doing business in China and a politician taking donations (bribes) from China. Surely you see the difference here?
So I'm assuming that if Trump won the Oval Office,he would be expected to immediately divest himself of all oversea business interests....in fact, all of his business interests, to avoid even the appearance of influence or impropriety.
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I did not mention it because there is a huge difference ethically between a person doing business in China and a politician taking donations (bribes) from China. Surely you see the difference here?
So I'm assuming that if Trump won the Oval Office,he would be expected to immediately divest himself of all oversea business interests....in fact, all of his business interests, to avoid even the appearance of influence or impropriety.
I do believe that there is a process in place by which Presidents do just that. Essentially any business interests they have go to be handled by others. They can legally make money from them but they can't have any control that would allow them to use information they receive as part of their office to help their business interests.

They can then later resume their rolls in those interests after leaving office. VP Cheney is probably a good recent example of a Executive office person doing this.
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So I'm assuming that if Trump won the Oval Office,he would be expected to immediately divest himself of all oversea business interests....in fact, all of his business interests, to avoid even the appearance of influence or impropriety.
I do believe that there is a process in place by which Presidents do just that. Essentially any business interests they have go to be handled by others. They can legally make money from them but they can't have any control that would allow them to use information they receive as part of their office to help their business interests.

They can then later resume their rolls in those interests after leaving office. VP Cheney is probably a good recent example of a Executive office person doing this.
Nothing like Joe Biden making money off the secret service staying at his guest house....

The Vice President’s Lucrative Deal with the Secret Service

Imagine you could go on a mini-holiday every weekend and get paid for it. Sounds nice, right? Well, Vice President Joe Biden has found such a deal. For the last five years the Vice President, who pulls in a comfortable $225,496 annual salary (plus a yearly Senate pension of $32,961), has managed to find some extra spending money from a very odd place — the budget of the U.S. Secret Service. How much extra income? Since 2010, according to income tax returns, Mr. Biden has raked in $113,300 in rental income from the agency that is charged with protecting his life.

So how does this actually work? Every weekend when the Vice President travels home to Wilmington, Delaware, he charges the Secret Service rent to stay in the guest cottage on his property. Yes, the folks that are charged with taking a bullet for the Veep get charged for the privilege of doing so.


http://radio.foxnews.com/2015/04/14/the-vice-presidents-lucrative-deal-with-the-secret-service/
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Are you ready to admit that you prefer Hillary and four more years of Obama then Trump?

I voted for Bush twice, McCain, and Romney.

You got your race card.
Why on earth would I ever vote for a Democrat, Hillary or no Hillary? Why would you lie and attribute something to me that I don't believe in, i.e. "Ready to admit you prefer Hillary". Where have I ever given you a statement to that effect?

What is it with you and the "race card" comments, what does that even MEAN in the context of this discussion. Look, I understand if you're hampered by an innate lack of ability to clearly state your thoughts, but just once give it a tiny bit of effort....what is this "race card" or "pimping your race card" imply as my not voting for Trump?

You're one of the most obtuse men on this site, always have. Grown a pair and tell me what it is you're trying to say.
Because you want a republican party run by liberal elites and you don't want a Trump led reformed republican party that represents working, middle class Americans.

You'd rather Hillary win then blame Trump's supporters for the demise of your party. THEN, reestablish your party as before.

The most important agenda for you and your republican associates here are social issues, not the economy, national defense, and middle class wages.

This is why you toot your social justice horn constantly and flash your race card at Trump supporters relentlessly here to the delight of your leftist supporters.
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May 26 2016, 03:22 PM
you want a republican party run by liberal elites and you don't want a Trump led reformed republican party that represents working, middle class Americans.


Trump is an elitist, and a big government authoritarian. He doesn't give a damn about working, middle class Americans, and has spent years screwing them over. You're getting conned.

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May 26 2016, 03:22 PM

The most important agenda for you and your republican associates here are social issues, not the economy, national defense, and middle class wages.


Trump is liberal on most social issues. I care most about the economy, which Trump's stated positions would damage badly. Nothing I've seen from Trump suggests he has the temperament or skill set to handle defense.
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Why on earth would I ever vote for a Democrat, Hillary or no Hillary? Why would you lie and attribute something to me that I don't believe in, i.e. "Ready to admit you prefer Hillary". Where have I ever given you a statement to that effect?

What is it with you and the "race card" comments, what does that even MEAN in the context of this discussion. Look, I understand if you're hampered by an innate lack of ability to clearly state your thoughts, but just once give it a tiny bit of effort....what is this "race card" or "pimping your race card" imply as my not voting for Trump?

You're one of the most obtuse men on this site, always have. Grown a pair and tell me what it is you're trying to say.
Because you want a republican party run by liberal elites and you don't want a Trump led reformed republican party that represents working, middle class Americans.

You'd rather Hillary win then blame Trump's supporters for the demise of your party. THEN, reestablish your party as before.

The most important agenda for you and your republican associates here are social issues, not the economy, national defense, and middle class wages.

This is why you toot your social justice horn constantly and flash your race card at Trump supporters relentlessly here to the delight of your leftist supporters.
Well, once again, you're lying, making a statement about things I'ver never said, and then you go about attributing it to me, as if I actually did say it.

What I want is men accomplished in the art of government, intelligent, educated men from all walks of life who believe in revamping our economy for the 21st/22nd centuries. I believe in a very strong Defense, not a bloated one just to continue making payments to General Electric, Boeing, Colt Firearms Division to say a few. Even with the cuts I'm a fan of, we'd still be the largest military by a factor of 5 of the next 10 national militaries.

I could care less about social issues, yet we constantly get bogged down in these battles over your God and how his beliefs should form the core of our agenda. We can't get any qualified men to the Bench because you guys want him to tell you beforehand if he wants to uphold Roe vs Wade.

Finally, what the hell is this "flashing the race card" in the context of me not wanting Trump, I've asked you 4 times now, and each time you've refused to answer.

Now some might call that cowardice.
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deepPOLL: TRUMP SUPPORTERS More Conservative Than Average GOP Voter"Supporters of Donald Trump differ substantially from other Republican voters in many of their foreign policy attitudes." not "more conservative"
Why does this republican board have a hostile attacking the Republican nominee in such terms? Go to the democratic forum.
Trump is basically running against the Republican party, and it's ideals. You supported Hillary in 08. I am not a democrat. if and When Trump officially becomes the GOP candidate, I will no longer be a republican. Until then, I will oppose this fraud here, and elsewhere.

Also, this is the conservative and/or rep board. It is not open to Hillary supporters, but supporters of Libertarian and Constitution parties, and Canadian & UK conservatives, etc are included.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/trump-reaches-magic-number-delegates-clinch-nomination-141243483--election.html?client=safari#

Time to go.
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That's still my choice to make. I am not endorsing Trump or Clinton, but for now I'm still supporting a number of real Republicans for other offices - more than you are probably.

"... told the AP... " isn't the nomination, despite the media spin. June 7 should make Trump official, at which point I may be done with the GOP, at least until after this regrettable election cycle. We'll see.
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That's still my choice to make. I am not endorsing Trump or Clinton, but for now I'm still supporting a number of real Republicans for other offices - more than you are probably.

"... told the AP... " isn't the nomination, despite the media spin. June 7 should make Trump official, at which point I may be done with the GOP, at least until after this regrettable election cycle. We'll see.
Not likely, there's a million elected officials on a Texas ballot. Trump has the nessecary delegates. You have gone beyond a mere advocacy for a third party libertarian, you repeatedly attack and seek to divide the party after the race ended. Perhaps if you were merely positive over John Mcafee it would be different than what you are doing.
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I was a a Kasich supporter, now I am just a humble man trying to do my small part to help make America Great Again...

Trump IS NOT a racist - anyone who says he he is either:

a - does not understand what he or she is talking about

b - is a liar

c - is dumber than a box of rocks

it really is just that simple - you don't like what he says? call him a racist! the media will jump on board & you will be protected by the the masses!'

but remember - the masses are asses

Trump is gonna win this thing - I am just excited to see the massive pants pooping that will happen simultaneously within the establishment of both parties

not enough Tide in the world to get all of those drawers cleaned up people...
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That's still my choice to make. I am not endorsing Trump or Clinton, but for now I'm still supporting a number of real Republicans for other offices - more than you are probably.

"... told the AP... " isn't the nomination, despite the media spin. June 7 should make Trump official, at which point I may be done with the GOP, at least until after this regrettable election cycle. We'll see.
did you see Trump's list of SCOTUS nominees?

that list is reason enough to vote for him, that and #NeverHillary

the man runs things, he hires people, he creates value

we have had just under 8 years of a community organizer wrecking the fabric of this country and destroying our health care infrastructure

and you are worried about Trump?

why? why would you, or anyone, be worried about a substantial upgrade?

I am trying, I am, but I do not get it...
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I'm not convinced it's an upgrade. if he does what he says, it will tank the economy worse than '07. If he doesn't do what he says, you're falling for a con man, which seems likely. "Not the other guy" isn't enough to get me to vote for a jackass, and the party shouldn't allow it. But it's probably inevitable, so I'll see some of you in a year or two maybe. IMO better an honest loss than a sell out.
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I'm not convinced it's an upgrade. if he does what he says, it will tank the economy worse than '07. If he doesn't do what he says, you're falling for a con man, which seems likely. "Not the other guy" isn't enough to get me to vote for a jackass, and the party shouldn't allow it. But it's probably inevitable, so I'll see some of you in a year or two maybe. IMO better an honest loss than a sell out.
Everything is always about money . . . No, it isn't.
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That's still my choice to make. I am not endorsing Trump or Clinton, but for now I'm still supporting a number of real Republicans for other offices - more than you are probably.

"... told the AP... " isn't the nomination, despite the media spin. June 7 should make Trump official, at which point I may be done with the GOP, at least until after this regrettable election cycle. We'll see.
did you see Trump's list of SCOTUS nominees?

that list is reason enough to vote for him, that and #NeverHillary

the man runs things, he hires people, he creates value

we have had just under 8 years of a community organizer wrecking the fabric of this country and destroying our health care infrastructure

and you are worried about Trump?

why? why would you, or anyone, be worried about a substantial upgrade?

I am trying, I am, but I do not get it...
The man also takes way more with his money, well, in many cases it's "other" people's money. He's also fired people when his profit margin was in danger.

He's failed just as many times as he's succeeded, and his failures have been whoopers and have real life consequences like people losing jobs, homes, and livelihoods. He outsources several products overseas instead of getting them to American citizens.

His companies have filed bankruptcy not once, but 4 times. You think we can afford our country going bankrupt four times?

As for the healthcare system, Obama's plan is very similar in action that which was once linked to Senator Dole, and Romney's plan in Massachusetts. We Republicans had years to get the system corrected and we did...well nothing because frankly everyone that we support was making to much money, there was no incentive to resolve anything.

So far those who have drank the kool-aid have not been able to tell me anything specific on what he'll actually do to "Make America Great", isn't that like a slogan of "Hope and Change"? Something so vague as to not need anything specific to rally the troops.

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That's still my choice to make. I am not endorsing Trump or Clinton, but for now I'm still supporting a number of real Republicans for other offices - more than you are probably.

"... told the AP... " isn't the nomination, despite the media spin. June 7 should make Trump official, at which point I may be done with the GOP, at least until after this regrettable election cycle. We'll see.
did you see Trump's list of SCOTUS nominees?

that list is reason enough to vote for him, that and #NeverHillary

the man runs things, he hires people, he creates value

we have had just under 8 years of a community organizer wrecking the fabric of this country and destroying our health care infrastructure

and you are worried about Trump?

why? why would you, or anyone, be worried about a substantial upgrade?

I am trying, I am, but I do not get it...
The man also takes way more with his money, well, in many cases it's "other" people's money. He's also fired people when his profit margin was in danger.

He's failed just as many times as he's succeeded, and his failures have been whoopers and have real life consequences like people losing jobs, homes, and livelihoods. He outsources several products overseas instead of getting them to American citizens.

His companies have filed bankruptcy not once, but 4 times. You think we can afford our country going bankrupt four times?

As for the healthcare system, Obama's plan is very similar in action that which was once linked to Senator Dole, and Romney's plan in Massachusetts. We Republicans had years to get the system corrected and we did...well nothing because frankly everyone that we support was making to much money, there was no incentive to resolve anything.

So far those who have drank the kool-aid have not been able to tell me anything specific on what he'll actually do to "Make America Great", isn't that like a slogan of "Hope and Change"? Something so vague as to not need anything specific to rally the troops.

Tsa starts to reveal his Marxist side.
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no, I do not believe he is a con man

he fires people when his bottom line is threatened? AWESOME - that's what he is flipping supposed to do

NO - I will not take a KNOWN liar over a successful businessman

4 bankruptcies = "as many successes as he has had?" - no sir, not by a long shot

and that Scotus list - amazing list - I will vote for him just based on that
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May 27 2016, 06:53 AM
no, I do not believe he is a con man

he fires people when his bottom line is threatened? AWESOME - that's what he is flipping supposed to do

NO - I will not take a KNOWN liar over a successful businessman

4 bankruptcies = "as many successes as he has had?" - no sir, not by a long shot

and that Scotus list - amazing list - I will vote for him just based on that
DIdn't say bottom line, said profits...so he's supposed to upend people's lives for more profit the's already getting. I can see your point if he was barely breaking even, that's nowhere near close as to his financial status.

As for the "long shot", most people would consider filing bankruptcy 4 times when it's your own companies to be a rather bad sign of your managerial skills..I know I would.

I haven't read the SCOTUS list, but if any of them had to pass the "I'm against Roe vs Wade" litmus test before he'd consider them, then they can't be the best.
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^^^You got to watch that video brah....you need some cheer in your life...
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May 27 2016, 02:50 PM
^^^You got to watch that video brah....you need some cheer in your life...
I have tons of cheer in my life, I have children and grandchildren, and as I said, I don't watch anyone's political videos on here I prefer to have a person talk to me from his own opinion, not what they found in a video.

Now, if you want to put up a video of Errol Flynn's Robin Hood, or John Wayne's "She Wore a Yellow Ribbon" I'll watch it.
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