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How much would Trump's white followers reverse in Civil Rights
Topic Started: May 6 2016, 06:47 PM (2,893 Views)
Tsalagi
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estonianman
May 7 2016, 06:34 PM
Statist busy bodies will always find something to regulate.
Says another white child who never endured Jim Crow
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Tsalagi
May 7 2016, 10:33 PM
estonianman
May 7 2016, 06:34 PM
Statist busy bodies will always find something to regulate.
Says another white child who never endured Jim Crow
Keep milking the past because of .0001 percent of the population was responsible isn't gonna help your argument.
Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind.
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Two a.m.
May 7 2016, 04:20 PM
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May 7 2016, 03:59 PM
Tsalagi
May 7 2016, 01:31 PM
Really, really hate that guy 2am, making sense and using logic...geesh....
Right up until he argues that discrimination against homosexuals or other minorities is peachy keen as long as it's about things he considers unimportant.

So, would you be fine with all the bakeries in town saying they won't sell you a wedding cake, or any other commodity or service they're providing to the general public, because you're Native American? And if so, why would you support being considered a second class citizen?
Arguing that someone should have the freedom to do something is not the same thing as arguing that such a thing is peachy keen.

And yes, when something is unimportant, it shouldn't be the object of legislation.

That doesn't seem an odd view.
Right, you condemn their action in principle, you just want them to be free to do it. So, maybe no one sells Native Americans shoes, because you don't REALLY need shoes. Or cloths, because hell you can make your own or go naked, right? I mean, if their religion believes that Native Americans are unclean and inferior, that should be fine, right? I mean, we'll condemn it in principle, while leaving the white majority free to do it anyway. Right?
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May 7 2016, 10:36 PM
Tsalagi
May 7 2016, 10:33 PM
estonianman
May 7 2016, 06:34 PM
Statist busy bodies will always find something to regulate.
Says another white child who never endured Jim Crow
Keep milking the past because of .0001 percent of the population was responsible isn't gonna help your argument.
The past was barely 25 year so....Nashville was under a Federal Court order to desegregate, it took over a decade and a half...and even then, Jim Crow's "Official" death is only 50 years. Why is it the far right only think history is revelant since Obama took office?
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Are Blacks and other minorities better off today that 25 or 50 years ago? Progress has been made although not 100%.
Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind.
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May 7 2016, 10:45 PM
Are Blacks and other minorities better off today that 25 or 50 years ago? Progress has been made although not 100%.
Oh, without a doubt progress has been made, but if there has been one constant thread in hate, it hides, unless given voice, Trump's rhetoric has had the unfortunate by-product of giving voice to hatreds once thought long buried.
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Tsalagi
May 7 2016, 11:07 PM
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May 7 2016, 10:45 PM
Are Blacks and other minorities better off today that 25 or 50 years ago? Progress has been made although not 100%.
Oh, without a doubt progress has been made, but if there has been one constant thread in hate, it hides, unless given voice, Trump's rhetoric has had the unfortunate by-product of giving voice to hatreds once thought long buried.
In the age of the Internet and in the aftermath of the failure of the Bush administration, these thoughts will not remain buried.
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May 7 2016, 11:10 PM
Tsalagi
May 7 2016, 11:07 PM
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May 7 2016, 10:45 PM
Are Blacks and other minorities better off today that 25 or 50 years ago? Progress has been made although not 100%.
Oh, without a doubt progress has been made, but if there has been one constant thread in hate, it hides, unless given voice, Trump's rhetoric has had the unfortunate by-product of giving voice to hatreds once thought long buried.
In the age of the Internet and in the aftermath of the failure of the Bush administration, these thoughts will not remain buried.
Failure of the Bush Administration?, What aspect?
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nNeo
May 7 2016, 08:54 PM
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May 7 2016, 08:08 PM
Bigot is another word like racists that is used by the powerful to silence threatening ideas. It doesn't work anymore.
I have no desire to silence you, or those like you. Getting your vile ideology out in the open is the first step to discrediting and crushing it.
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You may be a conservative republican..if you are pro life until you get your mistress knocked up
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Tsalagi
May 7 2016, 11:19 PM
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May 7 2016, 11:10 PM
Tsalagi
May 7 2016, 11:07 PM

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In the age of the Internet and in the aftermath of the failure of the Bush administration, these thoughts will not remain buried.
Failure of the Bush Administration?, What aspect?
Is that a joke?
Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary.
#MAGA
#wallsnotwars
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May 7 2016, 10:36 PM
Two a.m.
May 7 2016, 04:20 PM
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May 7 2016, 03:59 PM

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Arguing that someone should have the freedom to do something is not the same thing as arguing that such a thing is peachy keen.

And yes, when something is unimportant, it shouldn't be the object of legislation.

That doesn't seem an odd view.
Right, you condemn their action in principle, you just want them to be free to do it. So, maybe no one sells Native Americans shoes, because you don't REALLY need shoes. Or cloths, because hell you can make your own or go naked, right? I mean, if their religion believes that Native Americans are unclean and inferior, that should be fine, right? I mean, we'll condemn it in principle, while leaving the white majority free to do it anyway. Right?
Civil rights laws at present would prohibit public facilities from discriminating on the basis of race. That is settled law which was passed for a good, pragmatic reason - such reason being the widespread discrimination African-Americans were experiencing. It was not aimed at Native Americans and shoes however, the racial provision would cover them as well.

If there had been no widespread problems in the South regarding African-Americans being denied use of public facilities, then it is unlikely we would have passed such a law and, frankly, if no such problem existed, then we SHOULDN'T pass a law which solves a problem that society doesn't have. If the occasional bigot refused to sell shoes to an African-American or a Native American, then we would simply regard him as a lone idiot, not a social problem requiring congressional action.

But we did have a problem much bigger than a few isolated bigots so we did take congressional action.

And, yes, I frequently condemn actions in principle while standing up for the freedom of individuals to do them. That is how civil liberties work. Standing up for the rights of people whose actions you approve of is not a challenge. Standing up for the rights of those whose actions you condemn is the real test.
Edited by Two a.m., May 8 2016, 12:07 AM.
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Tsalagi
May 7 2016, 10:33 PM
estonianman
May 7 2016, 06:34 PM
Statist busy bodies will always find something to regulate.
Says another white child who never endured Jim Crow
No - but why would I? My family was hunted by raging bolsheviks.

First world problems.
Edited by estonianman, May 8 2016, 01:09 AM.
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Dr. B
May 7 2016, 09:23 PM
Why did all these violent race riots spark up when Democrat Obama became president?
What a ridiculous comment.

Is there any aspect of life you won't ignore if it serves you?

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May 8 2016, 01:15 AM
Dr. B
May 7 2016, 09:23 PM
Why did all these violent race riots spark up when Democrat Obama became president?
What a ridiculous comment.

Is there any aspect of life you won't ignore if it serves you?

Its a good point.

Race relations are abysmal at the end of the Obama presidency.
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estonianman
May 8 2016, 01:17 AM
Coast2coast
May 8 2016, 01:15 AM
Dr. B
May 7 2016, 09:23 PM
Why did all these violent race riots spark up when Democrat Obama became president?
What a ridiculous comment.

Is there any aspect of life you won't ignore if it serves you?

Its a good point.

Race relations are abysmal at the end of the Obama presidency.
It's a brain dead point with no basis in reality, fact or reason.

Between the politics that folks like you and Dr B insist be assigned and the amount of reality you have to ignore to do so it becomes a staggering task for either of you to separate the truth from your dishonestly soaked politics anymore.




Edited by Coast2coast, May 8 2016, 01:30 AM.
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May 8 2016, 01:28 AM
estonianman
May 8 2016, 01:17 AM
Coast2coast
May 8 2016, 01:15 AM

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Its a good point.

Race relations are abysmal at the end of the Obama presidency.
It's a brain dead point with no basis in reality, fact or reason.

Between the politics that folks like you and Dr B insist be assigned and the amount of reality you have to ignore to do so it becomes a staggering task for either of you to separate the truth from your dishonestly soaked politics anymore.




Sorry comrade - the mainstream finds it relevant, despite your best attempts to sway the narrative.

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=Race+relations+since+Obama

That said - it like blaming a president for the economy, kind of stupid as long as the FED is in charge.

Regardless its relevant. And if it riles up a few simple minded obamabots, well I suppose it has value.
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May 7 2016, 07:01 PM
nNeo
May 7 2016, 06:57 PM
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May 7 2016, 06:26 PM
What rights has Trump proposed to do away with?
The first amendment; frees speech and assembly for starters.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/26/trump-pledges-curb-press-freedom-libel-laws-first-amendment
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/432848/donald-trump-opposes-free-speech-pc-left

Freedom of religion, and uniform application of entry policy.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/07/politics/donald-trump-muslim-ban-immigration/

Unfettered commerce.

http://www.nationalreview.com/us-trade-trump-gets-it-wrong

Trump is a big-government, wannabe dictator.
I see you have decided to embrace your newfound marginality by endorsing slander, the immigration of terrorist, and the evisceration of America's manufacturing capacity.
I have a few words for nNeo....."Get him out of here !!!"...................... :lol:
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estonianman
May 8 2016, 02:26 AM
Coast2coast
May 8 2016, 01:28 AM
estonianman
May 8 2016, 01:17 AM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep
It's a brain dead point with no basis in reality, fact or reason.

Between the politics that folks like you and Dr B insist be assigned and the amount of reality you have to ignore to do so it becomes a staggering task for either of you to separate the truth from your dishonestly soaked politics anymore.




Sorry comrade - the mainstream finds it relevant, despite your best attempts to sway the narrative.

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=Race+relations+since+Obama

That said - it like blaming a president for the economy, kind of stupid as long as the FED is in charge.

Regardless its relevant. And if it riles up a few simple minded obamabots, well I suppose it has value.
Not interested in opinion pieces or political hit pieces that pretend stats.

Try asking those that live with the question of race relations everyday. Not those that were isolated until it was thrust out of "those" neighborhoods and 'into theirs'.








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Tsalagi
May 7 2016, 11:07 PM
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May 7 2016, 10:45 PM
Are Blacks and other minorities better off today that 25 or 50 years ago? Progress has been made although not 100%.
Oh, without a doubt progress has been made, but if there has been one constant thread in hate, it hides, unless given voice, Trump's rhetoric has had the unfortunate by-product of giving voice to hatreds once thought long buried.
Get real, both sides fan the flames of hate. This country never had a moment of long buried hatred since the founding days. If you are referring to the Klan, I suggest you look back about 30 years. The Klan has been reduced to a fly on the wall. You should be concerned about Black-on-Black and Black-on-white criminal activity.
Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind.
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May 8 2016, 03:39 AM
Tsalagi
May 7 2016, 11:07 PM
Drudge X
May 7 2016, 10:45 PM
Are Blacks and other minorities better off today that 25 or 50 years ago? Progress has been made although not 100%.
Oh, without a doubt progress has been made, but if there has been one constant thread in hate, it hides, unless given voice, Trump's rhetoric has had the unfortunate by-product of giving voice to hatreds once thought long buried.
Get real, both sides fan the flames of hate. This country never had a moment of long buried hatred since the founding days. If you are referring to the Klan, I suggest you look back about 30 years. The Klan has been reduced to a fly on the wall. You should be concerned about Black-on-Black and Black-on-white criminal activity.
Race relations will stay exactly as they are or get even worse as long as incidents like this are ignored, seen as unimportant or rare by White America.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/black-north-carolina-student-passes-150300237.html

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