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Conservatives worry about direction of party under Trump
Topic Started: May 7 2016, 09:59 PM (1,472 Views)
Eddo26
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http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/conservatives-worry-about-direction-of-party-under-trump/

For a lot of angsty conservatives, there’s more to worry about than just Donald Trump. There’s the future of the conservative movement to consider.

The soul-searching over what to do with the Republican Party’s presumptive presidential nominee includes a broader debate over who gets to define conservatism.
We believe only what we want to believe.
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:cheers:
We believe only what we want to believe.
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Robert Stout
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Conservatives should be worried because Trump is more liberal than Hillary...Perhaps Conservatism is dead ...Perhaps Conservatism is just having death spasms............. :booboo:
Jesus can raise the dead, but he can't fix stupid
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Conservativism stands for nothing. It's an ideology long past its prime based on the opinions of false profits who have ignored the middle-class for decades while they preach religious and racial intolerance while they start unnecessary wars they can't finish in the name of corporate profits. Wars that are designed to enrich the 1% while the other 99% pays in blood.

I truly feel sorry for anyone naive enough - no make that stupid enough to call themselves a conservative because you stand for nothing. Even Barry Goldwater realized this later in life. But his dream lives on in the minds of the politically disillusioned racists, theocrats and right-wing radicals that have taken over the party.

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Libertarian for the Win :cheers:
"if that **** wins we'll all hang from nooses"
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The Republican Party as we know it is kaput. The brand isn't going to disappear but the organization is going to be rebuilt from the ground up. The funny thing is that our two-party system is like a kiddie see-saw: change at one end produces change at the other. the reformation of the GOP will involve a reformation of the Democratic Party as well. Pardon my Marxism, but the key to understanding what transformations are already underway (i.e. the Great Revolution of the Suburban Proletariat that I've been telling you about for years) is class.
Conservatism is a social disease
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Robertr2000
May 8 2016, 10:41 AM
Libertarian for the Win :cheers:
Libertarians don't really exist outside of fantasy worlds and fiction novels.
Every one of you guys that think you are a libertarian are depending on a support system, a socialist support system.

You do get to choose your support system.


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May 8 2016, 01:07 PM
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All the living past Presidents are old, crotchety, and jealous of Trump....He is not selling his soul to become President like they did...Trump is laying waste to the Establishment that ran America for decades....This is not your father's election......... :lol:
Jesus can raise the dead, but he can't fix stupid
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May 8 2016, 02:44 PM
He is not selling his soul to become President like they did.
Trump has a soul? Unlikely.
Robert Stout
May 8 2016, 02:44 PM
Trump is laying waste to the Establishment that ran America for decades.

Trump IS the establishment. Instead of paying off politicians, he's becoming one. You're not reducing corruption, you're vertically integrating it.
Edited by nNeo, May 8 2016, 07:43 PM.
“Strong people don’t need strong leaders.”
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nNeo
May 8 2016, 07:42 PM
Robert Stout
May 8 2016, 02:44 PM
He is not selling his soul to become President like they did.
Trump has a soul? Unlikely.
Robert Stout
May 8 2016, 02:44 PM
Trump is laying waste to the Establishment that ran America for decades.

Trump IS the establishment. Instead of paying off politicians, he's becoming one. You're not reducing corruption, you're vertically integrating it.
Real Estate moguls view banks and Wall Street as the enemy...Several times they have attempted to bury him in business........ :hooray:
Edited by Robert Stout, May 8 2016, 11:26 PM.
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George Aligator
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Donald Trump's mission is to save the Republican Party, much as Napoleon saved the French Revolution. His remark that, although he is a conservative, the party is the Republican Party, not the Conservative Party, shows a sophisticated understanding of what he is about that clearly is over the heads of the right wing commentariat and most of Trump's own supporters.

The GOP is now riven by an ideological split between the TEA Party and the neo-con, reaganist establishment. The sad fact is that neither of these wings is capable of remaining viable in the face of a changing America. Trump is an utter pragmatist, dedicated to the preservation of the Republican ideals of small government and strong national defense tempered by the understanding that unless the customers (voters) like what you are selling, you can't win. The voters want more money and they blame foreigners and foreign trade for the their problems. They hate big government and its giveaways but they love Social Security. The hate Obamacare but love Medicaid and Medicare. The recent generation of GOP leaders has failed utterly to knit these disparate strands into a winning banner. Give Trump a chance. He is the best hope you've got.
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I'd like to thank the tea party for giving us The Donald...
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Dem4life
May 9 2016, 12:54 PM
I'd like to thank the tea party for giving us The Donald...
You are welcome....and we'd like to thank you for Hillary...

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Only liberals can choose not to go down the road to widespread, systematic violence.
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I say that big talk's worth doodly-squat
George Aligator
May 8 2016, 11:05 AM
The Republican Party as we know it is kaput. The brand isn't going to disappear but the organization is going to be rebuilt from the ground up. The funny thing is that our two-party system is like a kiddie see-saw: change at one end produces change at the other. the reformation of the GOP will involve a reformation of the Democratic Party as well. Pardon my Marxism, but the key to understanding what transformations are already underway (i.e. the Great Revolution of the Suburban Proletariat that I've been telling you about for years) is class.
Gud Lawd!!! The wisdom hare!!!
Endeavor to Persevere!!!
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I say that big talk's worth doodly-squat
George Aligator
May 9 2016, 12:51 PM
Give Trump a chance. He is the best hope you've got.
That's all you needed ta say rat thar!!! Those that support Trump already understand what he's all about. Quit given away the fookin farm to a bunch of fookin foreigners!!!
Endeavor to Persevere!!!
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Coast2coast

The direction? I'd say this sums it up nicely.

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I say that big talk's worth doodly-squat
Yur justa nuther maroon iffin you believe that!!!

A period of pure isolationism, whar we use all our available resources to improve the condition of these United States, will result in the reaffirmation of these United States as the one an only global superpower!!! We can then just walk in an annex all of the western hemisphere, while watchin the east crumble to a point whar they'll be nuthin but low hangin fruit!!! Now we're talkin NWO fur real!!!
Endeavor to Persevere!!!
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May 9 2016, 07:11 PM
Yur justa nuther maroon iffin you believe that!!!

A period of pure isolationism, whar we use all our available resources to improve the condition of these United States, will result in the reaffirmation of these United States as the one an only global superpower!!! We can then just walk in an annex all of the western hemisphere, while watchin the east crumble to a point whar they'll be nuthin but low hangin fruit!!! Now we're talkin NWO fur real!!!
Withdrawer to be a superpower.

Yeah, that's how it's done. :oyvey

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Coast2coast
May 9 2016, 07:14 PM
grannyhawkins
May 9 2016, 07:11 PM
Yur justa nuther maroon iffin you believe that!!!

A period of pure isolationism, whar we use all our available resources to improve the condition of these United States, will result in the reaffirmation of these United States as the one an only global superpower!!! We can then just walk in an annex all of the western hemisphere, while watchin the east crumble to a point whar they'll be nuthin but low hangin fruit!!! Now we're talkin NWO fur real!!!
Withdrawer to be a superpower.

Yeah, that's how it's done. :oyvey

Seems to be Obama's plan...with red lines of course...
Only liberals can choose not to go down the road to widespread, systematic violence.
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