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Reid blames Sanders supporters for disruptions at Nev. convention; Why do Democrats fear democracy?
Topic Started: May 17 2016, 11:36 AM (1,416 Views)
CautionaryTales
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May 18 2016, 06:57 AM
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May 18 2016, 06:51 AM
Betting on longshots doesn't win the long game.
The game is rigged in favor of large multinational corporations including Saudi Arabia and that's where you have put your support.
How would you like to see it rigged?
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May 18 2016, 06:59 AM
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May 18 2016, 06:57 AM
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May 18 2016, 06:51 AM
Betting on longshots doesn't win the long game.
The game is rigged in favor of large multinational corporations including Saudi Arabia and that's where you have put your support.
How would you like to see it rigged?
The American People? Small businesses? The local electricians Union? Your local town council?
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Every system of government is "rigged"
It's called organized.


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May 18 2016, 06:58 AM
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May 18 2016, 06:57 AM
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May 18 2016, 06:55 AM

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That's your opinion son.
The voters will get the chance to decide that.
In the democratic primary, special interests and the donor class already have.
Voters don't decide who's the best. They only decide who wins.
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May 18 2016, 07:01 AM
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How would you like to see it rigged?
The American People? Small businesses? The local electricians Union? Your local town council?
They all get to vote at the citizen level.
Do you think they should not get to vote?


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May 18 2016, 07:01 AM
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May 18 2016, 06:58 AM
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In the democratic primary, special interests and the donor class already have.
Voters don't decide who's the best. They only decide who wins.
Not so in the Democratic Party; special interests and the connected handed Hillary her victories. The grassroots were cut off.
Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary.
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May 18 2016, 07:01 AM
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May 18 2016, 06:58 AM
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In the democratic primary, special interests and the donor class already have.
Voters don't decide who's the best. They only decide who wins.
Good point.
But that is the way we have evolved our system to work.

The other choice would have to put the voters as a secondary voice or even an ignored input.


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May 18 2016, 07:02 AM
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Voters don't decide who's the best. They only decide who wins.
Not so in the Democratic Party; special interests and the connected handed Hillary her victories. The grassroots were cut off.
The grassroots have had, and are having their say.
Their position is not strong enough to beat Clinton and her supporters.


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Voters don't decide who's the best. They only decide who wins.
Not so in the Democratic Party; special interests and the connected handed Hillary her victories. The grassroots were cut off.
That may be true in the primary but not so much in the general.
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May 18 2016, 07:06 AM
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Not so in the Democratic Party; special interests and the connected handed Hillary her victories. The grassroots were cut off.
That may be true in the primary but not so much in the general.
True. The Berniebros will have the option to support someone who didn't rely on special interests to win his nomination or they can vote for a candidate who despises them for being men.
Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary.
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May 18 2016, 07:09 AM
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That may be true in the primary but not so much in the general.
True. The Berniebros will have the option to support someone who didn't rely on special interests to win his nomination or they can vote for a candidate who despises them for being men.
Ultimately it comes down to which candidate can control the narrative and sucker the most voters. My bet's on Hillary.
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May 18 2016, 07:14 AM
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True. The Berniebros will have the option to support someone who didn't rely on special interests to win his nomination or they can vote for a candidate who despises them for being men.
Ultimately it comes down to which candidate can control the narrative and sucker the most voters. My bet's on Hillary.
If narrative is your yardstick that will be a fools bet. Trump has controlled the narrative from day 1 and everyone else reacted. This will boil down to whether Trump can get white people in Michigan and Pennsylvania to vote like whites in Texas and Arizona. If he can't, the Republican Party is finished and will not ever win another election.
Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary.
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I think its great that Clinton has to fight off racists to make her case.
The moral high ground is always the best place to stand.
Thanks AI. Guys like you make it all the easier.
Edited by CautionaryTales, May 18 2016, 07:26 AM.


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May 18 2016, 07:22 AM
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Ultimately it comes down to which candidate can control the narrative and sucker the most voters. My bet's on Hillary.
If narrative is your yardstick that will be a fools bet. Trump has controlled the narrative from day 1 and everyone else reacted. This will boil down to whether Trump can get white people in Michigan and Pennsylvania to vote like whites in Texas and Arizona. If he can't, the Republican Party is finished and will not ever win another election.
That may be true up to this point but the dynamics change in the general election.
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May 18 2016, 07:25 AM
I think its great that Clinton has to fight off racists to make her case.
The moral high ground is always the best place to stand.
Thanks AI. Guys like you make it all the easier.
No doubt...but Clinton and her followers will make every effort to make racists, sexists, homophobes...etc. of anyone who opposes her. That's what I mean by controlling the narrative and luring suckers. It's the Alinsky way, and it works.
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May 18 2016, 07:43 AM
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May 18 2016, 07:25 AM
I think its great that Clinton has to fight off racists to make her case.
The moral high ground is always the best place to stand.
Thanks AI. Guys like you make it all the easier.
No doubt...but Clinton and her followers will make every effort to make racists, sexists, homophobes...etc. of anyone who opposes her. That's what I mean by controlling the narrative and luring suckers. It's the Alinsky way, and it works.
As long as guys like AI here are spouting off their mantra there really isn't a big need to call out hidden racists. Thanks AI.


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May 18 2016, 07:46 AM
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May 18 2016, 07:43 AM
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May 18 2016, 07:25 AM
I think its great that Clinton has to fight off racists to make her case.
The moral high ground is always the best place to stand.
Thanks AI. Guys like you make it all the easier.
No doubt...but Clinton and her followers will make every effort to make racists, sexists, homophobes...etc. of anyone who opposes her. That's what I mean by controlling the narrative and luring suckers. It's the Alinsky way, and it works.
As long as guys like AI here are spouting off their mantra there really isn't a big need to call out hidden racists. Thanks AI.
There may be no need but that won't prevent them from doing it.
Ringoism: Never underestimate the advantages of being underestimated.
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May 18 2016, 07:49 AM
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As long as guys like AI here are spouting off their mantra there really isn't a big need to call out hidden racists. Thanks AI.
There may be no need but that won't prevent them from doing it.
Granted.
It's politics.


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May 18 2016, 07:25 AM
I think its great that Clinton has to fight off racists to make her case.
The moral high ground is always the best place to stand.
Thanks AI. Guys like you make it all the easier.
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: You run with the moral high ground of covering for Saudi Arabia.
Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary.
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May 18 2016, 07:58 AM
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There may be no need but that won't prevent them from doing it.
Granted.
It's politics.
It's disgusting, divisive, and a detriment to the country.
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