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Bernie Sanders, Eyeing Convention, Willing to Harm Hillary Clinton in the Homestretch; He strikes against the donor class
Topic Started: May 18 2016, 10:44 PM (1,333 Views)
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Well said 70-101. You're much more charitable than I could possibly be at this point.
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May 19 2016, 08:54 AM
Well said 70-101. You're much more charitable than I could possibly be at this point.


Yeah, well said, that Trump will beat Hillary

Thats why she must stand down and give Bernie the nomination
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May 19 2016, 08:35 AM
The problem with Bernie Sanders and his supporters is that they really, really believe in what their guy is saying. This contrasts strongly with the other dissident faction, the Trump supporters, who are willing to dismiss the key themes of their guy's primary speeches as mere "suggestions."

The driving force behind Sanders is "social justice," a term that most conservatives don't understand and which the few that do, think abominable. But social justice, unlike anger at immigrants, is a positive force, an ideal worth fighting for. When you feel you are fighting for justice, you don't fold your tent and go home just because the other guy or gal pulls ahead.

This man KNOWS!
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May 19 2016, 08:36 AM
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May 18 2016, 11:35 PM

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You need to stop trying to find other people to blame for the inadequacies of the Democratic Party hand picked nominee.

If the Democrats lose, and Sanders has endorsed their nominee and hasn't tried for a third party run for the Presidency, then the only ones Democrats will have to blame are themselves and their candidate.

Democrats are the ones pissing in the Wheaties of Bernie Sanders supporters and then with the next breath demanding that those same supporters vote for Clinton no matter how poorly the Democrats treat them, because Trump is evil.
You would be correct if not for a few very important points you overlooked. Which are: The DNC welcomed Bernie with open arms to run as a Democrat. Bernie has no chance of winning the nomination now - so it's time to bow out gracefully so no further damage is done to the party, just as the GOP candidates did.

Bernie refuses to quit the race until the last vote is counted when Hillary already has 92% of the nomination locked up. With the only reason being he's enjoying the spotlight - and he wishes to portray himself as the Senate's most influential powerbroker. When in fact, he's hurting the Democratic party not helping it.

It's come to the point now Hillary may well lose this election - the odds are increasing daily Trump will beat her, simply because the Democratic party is divided. Now all Bernie can think about is how can he and his supporters seek revenge against the DNC and its Superdelegates for not nominating him.

All of this because the DNC welcome Bernie with open arms to run as a Democrat - with the understanding he would play by party rules. Which he now refuses to do simply because his feelings are hurt and he has nothing to lose. Bernie Sanders has become cancer within the Democratic party - and has proven without a doubt why he deserves to lose.




When competing against Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton didn't bow out gracefully in order to avoid "damaging" the Democratic party and harming its chances for winning the election.

Why should Bernie?
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Why did the Democratic Party allow an Independent to run on their ticket anyway...
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May 19 2016, 09:43 AM
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May 19 2016, 08:36 AM
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You would be correct if not for a few very important points you overlooked. Which are: The DNC welcomed Bernie with open arms to run as a Democrat. Bernie has no chance of winning the nomination now - so it's time to bow out gracefully so no further damage is done to the party, just as the GOP candidates did.

Bernie refuses to quit the race until the last vote is counted when Hillary already has 92% of the nomination locked up. With the only reason being he's enjoying the spotlight - and he wishes to portray himself as the Senate's most influential powerbroker. When in fact, he's hurting the Democratic party not helping it.

It's come to the point now Hillary may well lose this election - the odds are increasing daily Trump will beat her, simply because the Democratic party is divided. Now all Bernie can think about is how can he and his supporters seek revenge against the DNC and its Superdelegates for not nominating him.

All of this because the DNC welcome Bernie with open arms to run as a Democrat - with the understanding he would play by party rules. Which he now refuses to do simply because his feelings are hurt and he has nothing to lose. Bernie Sanders has become cancer within the Democratic party - and has proven without a doubt why he deserves to lose.




When competing against Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton didn't bow out gracefully in order to avoid "damaging" the Democratic party and harming its chances for winning the election.

Why should Bernie?
Hillary also maintained control over her supporters - why can't Bernie?
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May 19 2016, 10:42 AM
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When competing against Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton didn't bow out gracefully in order to avoid "damaging" the Democratic party and harming its chances for winning the election.

Why should Bernie?
Hillary also maintained control over her supporters - why can't Bernie?
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http://www.salon.com/2008/06/23/pumas/

http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/4249/kentucky-clinton-supporters-protest-clinton-delegate-replacement/

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/06/clinton-suppo-1.html
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http://www.commondreams.org/views/2008/04/30/clinton-smear-campaign-against-obama

http://www.gallup.com/poll/105691/mccain-vs-obama-28-clinton-backers-mccain.aspx

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/3/31/113515/470/blogrelated/Do-They-Hate-Clinton-More-Than-They-Care-About-The-Dem-Party-
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May 19 2016, 08:36 AM
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You need to stop trying to find other people to blame for the inadequacies of the Democratic Party hand picked nominee.

If the Democrats lose, and Sanders has endorsed their nominee and hasn't tried for a third party run for the Presidency, then the only ones Democrats will have to blame are themselves and their candidate.

Democrats are the ones pissing in the Wheaties of Bernie Sanders supporters and then with the next breath demanding that those same supporters vote for Clinton no matter how poorly the Democrats treat them, because Trump is evil.
You would be correct if not for a few very important points you overlooked. Which are: The DNC welcomed Bernie with open arms to run as a Democrat. Bernie has no chance of winning the nomination now - so it's time to bow out gracefully so no further damage is done to the party, just as the GOP candidates did.

Bernie refuses to quit the race until the last vote is counted when Hillary already has 92% of the nomination locked up. With the only reason being he's enjoying the spotlight - and he wishes to portray himself as the Senate's most influential powerbroker. When in fact, he's hurting the Democratic party not helping it.

It's come to the point now Hillary may well lose this election - the odds are increasing daily Trump will beat her, simply because the Democratic party is divided. Now all Bernie can think about is how can he and his supporters seek revenge against the DNC and its Superdelegates for not nominating him.

All of this because the DNC welcome Bernie with open arms to run as a Democrat - with the understanding he would play by party rules. Which he now refuses to do simply because his feelings are hurt and he has nothing to lose. Bernie Sanders has become cancer within the Democratic party - and has proven without a doubt why he deserves to lose.





The essential problem with Sanders is really tunnelvision. He's playing small ball. He's worried over how far left the Democratic Party is. Of course, the reality is that the big threat to the nation is Trump who is basically a proto-fascist.

This is basically an all-hands-on-deck situation with a massive tidal wave about to hit the ship but Sanders is still down in the galley making his staff clean the silver because he found a dirty fork.
"The stars can be near or distant, according as we need them." - George Orwell, 1984
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May 19 2016, 04:18 AM
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May 18 2016, 11:06 PM
What's harming Clinton isn't actually the fact that Sanders won't quit. That's okay.

What's not okay is that Sanders is taking an ax to the party itself and to the legitimacy of the process. He probably figures he can just endorse her at the convention and all will be well. But the reality is that his slash-and-burn rhetoric against the party leadership is sowing discord among his voters that could be far harder to fix than he thinks. He's not just damaging Clinton. He's damaging the relationship the Democratic Party has to younger and more liberal voters.

Dangerous. Very dangerous.
So both parties get axed? No big loss. They seem to need to be shaken up.

But both parties won't get axed. One of them is going to wind up with their nominee as president.
"The stars can be near or distant, according as we need them." - George Orwell, 1984
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May 18 2016, 11:13 PM

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He doesn't want to run by himself and get Trump elected. You may not be bright enough to understand the difference between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. Fortunately, your hero Bernie is smarter than you and does understand the difference. He doesn't want a Trump presidency.

Problem is that he may be overestimating your intelligence. He probably figures that - at the last minute - he can endorse Hillary and jerk all his little cult members such as yourself back in line.

But I think many of you are more nihilistic than he understands and if he keeps poisoning the well, that may be a tougher job than he thinks.
You need to stop trying to find other people to blame for the inadequacies of the Democratic Party hand picked nominee.

If the Democrats lose, and Sanders has endorsed their nominee and hasn't tried for a third party run for the Presidency, then the only ones Democrats will have to blame are themselves and their candidate.

Democrats are the ones pissing in the Wheaties of Bernie Sanders supporters and then with the next breath demanding that those same supporters vote for Clinton no matter how poorly the Democrats treat them, because Trump is evil.
Oh * snif*
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He doesn't want to run by himself and get Trump elected. You may not be bright enough to understand the difference between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. Fortunately, your hero Bernie is smarter than you and does understand the difference. He doesn't want a Trump presidency.

Problem is that he may be overestimating your intelligence. He probably figures that - at the last minute - he can endorse Hillary and jerk all his little cult members such as yourself back in line.

But I think many of you are more nihilistic than he understands and if he keeps poisoning the well, that may be a tougher job than he thinks.
You need to stop trying to find other people to blame for the inadequacies of the Democratic Party hand picked nominee.

If the Democrats lose, and Sanders has endorsed their nominee and hasn't tried for a third party run for the Presidency, then the only ones Democrats will have to blame are themselves and their candidate.

Democrats are the ones pissing in the Wheaties of Bernie Sanders supporters and then with the next breath demanding that those same supporters vote for Clinton no matter how poorly the Democrats treat them, because Trump is evil.

Yes, I know the Bernie booster credo. You slash Hillary's tires and then blame her because she didn't buy knife-proof radials.
"The stars can be near or distant, according as we need them." - George Orwell, 1984
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May 19 2016, 11:15 AM
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May 19 2016, 08:36 AM
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You would be correct if not for a few very important points you overlooked. Which are: The DNC welcomed Bernie with open arms to run as a Democrat. Bernie has no chance of winning the nomination now - so it's time to bow out gracefully so no further damage is done to the party, just as the GOP candidates did.

Bernie refuses to quit the race until the last vote is counted when Hillary already has 92% of the nomination locked up. With the only reason being he's enjoying the spotlight - and he wishes to portray himself as the Senate's most influential powerbroker. When in fact, he's hurting the Democratic party not helping it.

It's come to the point now Hillary may well lose this election - the odds are increasing daily Trump will beat her, simply because the Democratic party is divided. Now all Bernie can think about is how can he and his supporters seek revenge against the DNC and its Superdelegates for not nominating him.

All of this because the DNC welcome Bernie with open arms to run as a Democrat - with the understanding he would play by party rules. Which he now refuses to do simply because his feelings are hurt and he has nothing to lose. Bernie Sanders has become cancer within the Democratic party - and has proven without a doubt why he deserves to lose.





The essential problem with Sanders is really tunnelvision. He's playing small ball. He's worried over how far left the Democratic Party is. Of course, the reality is that the big threat to the nation is Trump who is basically a proto-fascist.

This is basically an all-hands-on-deck situation with a massive tidal wave about to hit the ship but Sanders is still down in the galley making his staff clean the silver because he found a dirty fork.
Bernies campaign manager Jeff Weaver said on CNN yesterday that Sen. Sanders will support the Democratic parties nominee, but he wouldn't say to what length.
Which was rather disappointing, but not surprising, because it sounds like the Sanders campaign isn't sure what it's going to do.
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May 19 2016, 11:20 AM
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May 19 2016, 07:31 AM
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You need to stop trying to find other people to blame for the inadequacies of the Democratic Party hand picked nominee.

If the Democrats lose, and Sanders has endorsed their nominee and hasn't tried for a third party run for the Presidency, then the only ones Democrats will have to blame are themselves and their candidate.

Democrats are the ones pissing in the Wheaties of Bernie Sanders supporters and then with the next breath demanding that those same supporters vote for Clinton no matter how poorly the Democrats treat them, because Trump is evil.

Yes, I know the Bernie booster credo. You slash Hillary's tires and then blame her because she didn't buy knife-proof radials.
Her tires aren't being slashed. Stop with the silly hyperbole.
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May 19 2016, 11:57 AM
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The essential problem with Sanders is really tunnelvision. He's playing small ball. He's worried over how far left the Democratic Party is. Of course, the reality is that the big threat to the nation is Trump who is basically a proto-fascist.

This is basically an all-hands-on-deck situation with a massive tidal wave about to hit the ship but Sanders is still down in the galley making his staff clean the silver because he found a dirty fork.
Bernies campaign manager Jeff Weaver said on CNN yesterday that Sen. Sanders will support the Democratic parties nominee, but he wouldn't say to what length.
Which was rather disappointing, but not surprising, because it sounds like the Sanders campaign isn't sure what it's going to do.
The Sanders campaign hasn't withdrawn from the contest. They're not bowing out. They'll fight until the last delegate casts the last ballot at the convention.

There is nothing wrong with that. That's what Hillary Clinton did.
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May 19 2016, 12:16 PM
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Yes, I know the Bernie booster credo. You slash Hillary's tires and then blame her because she didn't buy knife-proof radials.
Her tires aren't being slashed. Stop with the silly hyperbole.
Bernie doesn't need paid trolls....Hillary does....Bernie's problem was he started off not fighting....it was only when he saw the back room delegate shenanigans screwing him that he decided to actually make this a contest....if Hillary is the nominee I have no doubt we will have President Trump.....with Bernie?

He attracts the same energized disgruntled masses Trump does and he pulls the energized liberals Obama did....Trump can run to the left of Hillary and pick off a section of voters....he cannot run to the left of Bernie....

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You need to stop trying to find other people to blame for the inadequacies of the Democratic Party hand picked nominee.

If the Democrats lose, and Sanders has endorsed their nominee and hasn't tried for a third party run for the Presidency, then the only ones Democrats will have to blame are themselves and their candidate.

Democrats are the ones pissing in the Wheaties of Bernie Sanders supporters and then with the next breath demanding that those same supporters vote for Clinton no matter how poorly the Democrats treat them, because Trump is evil.

Yes, I know the Bernie booster credo. You slash Hillary's tires and then blame her because she didn't buy knife-proof radials.
"Yes, I know the Bernie booster credo. You slash Hillary's tires and then blame her because she didn't buy knife-proof radials."

This is an excellent (and fitting) analogy. It is exactly what some Senator Sanders supporters are doing!
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May 19 2016, 12:50 PM
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Yes, I know the Bernie booster credo. You slash Hillary's tires and then blame her because she didn't buy knife-proof radials.
"Yes, I know the Bernie booster credo. You slash Hillary's tires and then blame her because she didn't buy knife-proof radials."

This is an excellent (and fitting) analogy. It is exactly what some Senator Sanders supporters are doing!
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