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| India records its hottest temperature ever amid heat wave; 51 degrees Celsius (123.8 Fahrenheit) | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: May 20 2016, 07:24 AM (2,614 Views) | |
| Member013 | May 20 2016, 07:24 AM Post #1 |
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A city in western India has suffered through the country's highest temperature in history — a scorching 51 degrees Celsius (123.8 Fahrenheit). The record was set Thursday in the city of Phalodi, in the western state of Rajasthan. India's meteorological department said the previous high was 50.6 Celsius (123 F), reached in 1956 in the city of Alwar, also in Rajasthan. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/india-records-its-hottest-temperature-ever-amid-heat-wave/ar-BBtgNp7?li=BBnb7Kz |
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| mysysail | May 20 2016, 07:56 AM Post #2 |
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Climate-change, though reality across the Globe, is non-existent according to some CONs. |
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| Robert Stout | May 20 2016, 08:16 AM Post #3 |
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The 123.8 degree temperature in Phalodi barely beat the record set 60 years ago, prior to global warming...I have been in temperatures of over 121 degrees in Phoenix and Bullhead City....That is what deserts do...............
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| nNeo | May 20 2016, 01:26 PM Post #4 |
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What is significant is not an individual record, or the margin by which an individual record is exceeded, but rather the overall pattern. In normal cycles we'd expect occasional record highs and lows, in about even proportion. Looking at the early 20th century, that was pretty much the case, with a small warming bias in the 1920s, and slight cooling (mostly from aerosol air pollution) in the 1960s and early 70s. Since then we've seen a strong tilt to warming, with record highs happening 1.5 to 2 times as often as record lows. That it gets hot in the desert isn't news. That it gets hotter, more often, in the same place, is. Edited by nNeo, May 20 2016, 01:27 PM.
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| Demagogue | May 20 2016, 01:32 PM Post #5 |
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Almost nobody says that the climate does not change. What is in question is how much of the change is due to the actions of man. That wonderful hockey stick graph is a flat line when if you take the date back 1000 years or so. |
| People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to visit violence on those who would do them harm. | |
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| nNeo | May 20 2016, 02:15 PM Post #6 |
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That question has been mostly answered. There's a positive and very close correlation between observed increases in temperature and and atmospheric levels of greenhouse gasses. The increases in greenhouse gasses correspond to the amount humans are adding. The temperature increase is in line with theory, given those levels. There are still minor questions about feedback effects and long-term sensitivities, but those are subtle. The basic mechanism is well understood. |
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| W A Mozart | May 20 2016, 03:01 PM Post #7 |
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What we really need here is MORE CO2 in the atmosphere...! You betcha! Makes everything green. Plants grow better. There's more food availability, corn crops, wheat crops, soybeans, ...everything grows better with more CO2...!
http://www.ilovemycarbondioxide.com/pdf/Endersbee-oceans.pdf Mozart edited to the allowable 25% copy/paste per the rules Edited by wilmywood8455, May 20 2016, 04:31 PM.
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| nNeo | May 20 2016, 03:32 PM Post #8 |
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Under most real-world conditions that is false. More CO2 improves plant growth only when the limiting factor is CO2, and only for non-C4 plants. In most cases it isn't. Response is not uniform, so you may boost weeds or insect pets more than the crop you hope to help. Plants under stress from drought, heat, or low nutrients can be further harmed by higher levels of CO2, and since heat and drought are made worse, more CO2 is a problem, and not certainly NOT needed. https://news.stanford.edu/pr/02/jasperplots124.html https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11655-climate-myths-higher-co2-levels-will-boost-plant-growth-and-food-production/ https://www.skepticalscience.com/co2-plant-food.htm |
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| Scim | May 20 2016, 05:48 PM Post #9 |
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That's a scientifc question and thr best estimate is that about 100% of the warming since 1950 has been caused by us. If you change the question to "is most of the recent warming human caused?", then the consensus in scienticic research is 97 %. Edited by Scim, May 20 2016, 05:49 PM.
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| W A Mozart | May 20 2016, 08:52 PM Post #10 |
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Nonsense! (And you call yourself a scientist...?) Bupkis, gobbledexxxx, pie-in-the-sky codswallup, crapoloa, liberal-wet-dreams, fallacious logic, stupid rumor, erroneous trickery, bull crap, urban myth, ...but if you repeat it often enough (Joseph Stalin), it becomes the truth. Completely debunked by the Wall Street Journal in 2014: http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303480304579578462813553136 Here it is in its entirety...
Mozart edited for length to meet the 25% copy/paste criteria...do it again and there will be action Edited by wilmywood8455, May 22 2016, 05:46 PM.
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| Robert Stout | May 20 2016, 09:38 PM Post #11 |
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Warmists like to believe that climate change is man made...It makes them feel more powerful than Mother Nature and makes God irrelevant...............
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| Robert Stout | May 20 2016, 10:07 PM Post #12 |
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The highest recorded temperature in Death Valley was 134 degrees, set in 1913....This is before we had all this terrible man caused global warming...........
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| W A Mozart | May 21 2016, 09:37 PM Post #13 |
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Furthermore, there is this from Forbes.... http://www.forbes.com/sites/alexepstein/2015/01/06/97-of-climate-scientists-agree-is-100-wrong/#77834a0f7187
There...! Done! Mozart edited for length to adhere to 25% rule Edited by wilmywood8455, May 22 2016, 07:46 PM.
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| W A Mozart | May 22 2016, 10:40 AM Post #14 |
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The "global warming industry" is now a 1.5 trillion (with a 't') farce. If you were a scientist, looking for a government hand-out every friggen year for your sustenance, you'd be a 'global warming' proponent as well. The EU in Brussels and the Democrats on our Capital Hill are paying-out BIG bucks to keep this monster alive.
http://joannenova.com.au/2015/07/spot-the-vested-interest-the-1-5-trillion-climate-change-industry/ Furthermore:
http://www.westernjournalism.com/climate-crisis-inc-a-1-5-trillion-per-year-house-of-cards/ Mozart edited for length to comply with 25% copy/paste rule Edited by wilmywood8455, May 22 2016, 07:37 PM.
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| Siberian | May 22 2016, 03:05 PM Post #15 |
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Global warming is a wonderful thing. We need more! I am a little tired to have snow 6 months a year. I don't mind if I have just 4... |
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| Robert Stout | May 22 2016, 03:19 PM Post #16 |
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Apparently you have not heard my prediction of a Mini Ice Age ???................... :oyvey |
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| nNeo | May 22 2016, 03:42 PM Post #17 |
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Wrong, and supported by nothing. And WAM tossing out already discredited crap, right on cue. There has been warming according to every credible study, and fairly constant with theory. You can quibble about sensitivity and feedbacks, or whether the scientific consensus is 97% or 95 or 98, but overwhelmingly experts who study the subject, and mountains of physical evidence support global warming. Nothing supports cooling beyond local or short term effects. Deniers are liars or fools. Edited by nNeo, May 22 2016, 03:47 PM.
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| Scim | May 22 2016, 04:41 PM Post #18 |
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It's easy to test whether the scientists are right or Mozart is right. Go look on Google Scholar, do a random search for climate science papers and go read them. If all the scientists are wrong then you'll easily be able to find more than a few percent that reject human-caused global warming. Rather than do this really, really easy test, science deniers have spent years bitching. Why? NASA says "Multiple studies published in peer-reviewed scientific journals1 show that 97 percent or more of actively publishing climate scientists agree: Climate-warming trends over the past century are extremely likely due to human activities." Mozart has opinion pieces by: 1) Alex Epstein, paid by the fossil fuel industry (“I am proud to work with the fossil fuel industry") 2) Roy Spencer, of the ~3 % of climate scientists outside the consensus, paid by Peabody coal for a court case where the judge decided he spouted rubbish. Creationist and believes his "job [is] a little like a legislator...to minimize the role of government." 3) Joe Bast of the Heartland Institute, which is paid by the fossil fuel industry for anti-science propaganda. The same group was paid by big tobacco to lie to the public about smoking and lung cancer. They're good, persuasive writers, but very deceptive. They compare results of climate science with opinion polls of weathermen who have never done any science, for example. And report David Legates, who had to hide poll results and thousands of papers in order to get the results he wanted. Edited by Scim, May 22 2016, 04:42 PM.
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| Scim | May 22 2016, 04:50 PM Post #19 |
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NASA's temperature record is below. Data is here. Global warming is happening.
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| W A Mozart | May 22 2016, 07:56 PM Post #20 |
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Peabody Coal ? (bankrupt) The fossil fuel industry? (bankrupt) Now, I want you to take some time and READ that lovely little article about the global warming industry being 1.5 trillion dollar monster. See it? Read it again. Peabody Coal, which just went bankrupt 2 months back, doesn't hold a candle to this mega-monster. It's complete insanity. One (point) five trillion dollars is being poured into this fraud. There is NO global warming. The temperatures over the past 100 years have been rising slightly, as they should. There is only MODEST loss of ice on the North Pole, and a major increase on the South Pole. There is a very, very slight rise in ocean water levels. That's it. Nothing to worry about. Nothing worth wrecking the entire world's economy over. Were this a just world, a world filled with global-minded citizens, Al Gore would be taken to the nearest tar pit, then tarred and feathered. Mozart |
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