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How To Secede From The U.S.
Topic Started: May 21 2016, 06:01 PM (2,237 Views)
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Dusty Smith Explains The Problems Some States May Have If They Try To Secede.

I am all for secession of some states. Most of the red states don't like America they way it is so why shouldn't they get what the want? I would love to see the red states go. The red state for the most part are the parasite states aka the welfare states. They get more federal dollars than they pay in in taxes. The are a drain and if I were the president I would sign an executive order to grant them 100% state sovereignty. I would call it the "You don't like the US and the US doesn't like you so get to hell out" law.

I encourage the red stated to leave. My executive order would be to hold state referendums and if the majority wanted to leave then I would declare that state not part of the USA. Good riddance to unAmerican rubbish!

New Mexico and Mississippi are the biggest moochers and I'd like to see them gone ASAP.

States receiving the most federal funding per tax dollar paid:
1. New Mexico: $2.63
2. West Virginia: $2.57
3. Mississippi: $2.47

4. District of Colombia: $2.41
5. Hawaii: $2.38 Receives massive military spending.
6. Alabama: $2.03
7. Alaska: $1.93
8. Montana: $1.92
9. South Carolina: $1.92

10. Maine: $1.78 Has Republican Governor

There an old saying that you red state dwelling freeloaders need to hear. "America Love it or Leave it! Please leave red states!
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Welcome back Apostle13
Not Apostle 13 sorry. What did you think of the video?

What do you think of the fact that the red states are the parasite states?

I think without the help of the Blue states the red states would turn into 3rd world nations.

Why do you think red states are so lazy and stupid?
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May 21 2016, 06:02 PM
Welcome back Apostle13
Not Apostle 13 sorry. What did you think of the video?

What do you think of the fact that the red states are the parasite states?

I think without the help of the Blue states the red states would turn into 3rd world nations.

Why do you think red states are so lazy and stupid?
I curious why you refer to welfare recipients as parasites, only when it is politically expedient?
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States receiving the most federal funding per tax dollar paid:
1. New Mexico: $2.63
2. West Virginia: $2.57
3. Mississippi: $2.47

4. District of Colombia: $2.41
5. Hawaii: $2.38 Receives massive military spending.
6. Alabama: $2.03
7. Alaska: $1.93
8. Montana: $1.92
9. South Carolina: $1.92

10. Maine: $1.78 Has Republican Governor

There an old saying that you red state dwelling freeloaders need to hear. "America Love it or Leave it! Please leave red states!



Source please. I ask because New Mexico went democrat in the last two presidential elections.
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Not Apostle 13 sorry.

Yeah, I wouldn't admit to it either... guy was a loser
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May 21 2016, 06:37 PM
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May 21 2016, 06:30 PM
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May 21 2016, 06:02 PM
Welcome back Apostle13
Not Apostle 13 sorry. What did you think of the video?

What do you think of the fact that the red states are the parasite states?

I think without the help of the Blue states the red states would turn into 3rd world nations.

Why do you think red states are so lazy and stupid?
I curious why you refer to welfare recipients as parasites, only when it is politically expedient?
I'm using conservative Christian logic and there is a difference between individual people with real needs due to real hardship and disability. When it comes to the red states we are talking about detrimental effects of Republican governance and stupidity, ignorance, hypocrisy and sloth of most of an entire populace.

The righties whine about socialism yet they are the biggest recipients of what the thinks socialism is.

Laziness and freeloading in the least of the sinful decadent red state problems. The red states lead the country in all 7 deadly sins.

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Welcome back Apostle13
Not Apostle 13 sorry.

Yeah, I wouldn't admit to it either... guy was a loser
By that do you mean that he told the truth and you couldn't handle the truth?

I find it quite telling that you had no comment on the video or the OP. Why do you fear the truth?

Many of the red states want to secede and I would love it if the did. What do you think?
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May 21 2016, 07:22 PM
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States receiving the most federal funding per tax dollar paid:
1. New Mexico: $2.63
2. West Virginia: $2.57
3. Mississippi: $2.47

4. District of Colombia: $2.41
5. Hawaii: $2.38 Receives massive military spending.
6. Alabama: $2.03
7. Alaska: $1.93
8. Montana: $1.92
9. South Carolina: $1.92

10. Maine: $1.78 Has Republican Governor

There an old saying that you red state dwelling freeloaders need to hear. "America Love it or Leave it! Please leave red states!



Source please. I ask because New Mexico went democrat in the last two presidential elections.
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May 21 2016, 06:01 PM

Dusty Smith Explains The Problems Some States May Have If They Try To Secede.

I am all for secession of some states. Most of the red states don't like America they way it is so why shouldn't they get what the want? I would love to see the red states go. The red state for the most part are the parasite states aka the welfare states. They get more federal dollars than they pay in in taxes. The are a drain and if I were the president I would sign an executive order to grant them 100% state sovereignty. I would call it the "You don't like the US and the US doesn't like you so get to hell out" law.

I encourage the red stated to leave. My executive order would be to hold state referendums and if the majority wanted to leave then I would declare that state not part of the USA. Good riddance to unAmerican rubbish!

New Mexico and Mississippi are the biggest moochers and I'd like to see them gone ASAP.

States receiving the most federal funding per tax dollar paid:
1. New Mexico: $2.63
2. West Virginia: $2.57
3. Mississippi: $2.47

4. District of Colombia: $2.41
5. Hawaii: $2.38 Receives massive military spending.
6. Alabama: $2.03
7. Alaska: $1.93
8. Montana: $1.92
9. South Carolina: $1.92

10. Maine: $1.78 Has Republican Governor

There an old saying that you red state dwelling freeloaders need to hear. "America Love it or Leave it! Please leave red states!
Excellent. I support the redistribution of wealth from the blue states to the red states. If anything, Progs don't pay enough in taxes and need a tax hike.
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I curious why you refer to welfare recipients as parasites, only when it is politically expedient?
I'm using conservative Christian logic and there is a difference between individual people with real needs due to real hardship and disability. When it comes to the red states we are talking about detrimental effects of Republican governance and stupidity, ignorance, hypocrisy and sloth of most of an entire populace.

The righties whine about socialism yet they are the biggest recipients of what the thinks socialism is.

Laziness and freeloading in the least of the sinful decadent red state problems. The red states lead the country in all 7 deadly sins.

Perhaps if your state elected Republicans it would get more from the federal government?
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estonianman
May 21 2016, 06:02 PM
Welcome back Apostle13
Not Apostle 13 sorry. What did you think of the video?

What do you think of the fact that the red states are the parasite states?

I think without the help of the Blue states the red states would turn into 3rd world nations.

Why do you think red states are so lazy and stupid?
Blue state voters are suckers who elect politicians who give their hard earned money to the red states. Perhaps you should reflect on why you support a large centralized government which redistributes money to the more wily red states?
Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary.
#MAGA
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May 21 2016, 08:06 PM
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May 21 2016, 07:22 PM
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May 21 2016, 06:01 PM


States receiving the most federal funding per tax dollar paid:
1. New Mexico: $2.63
2. West Virginia: $2.57
3. Mississippi: $2.47

4. District of Colombia: $2.41
5. Hawaii: $2.38 Receives massive military spending.
6. Alabama: $2.03
7. Alaska: $1.93
8. Montana: $1.92
9. South Carolina: $1.92

10. Maine: $1.78 Has Republican Governor

There an old saying that you red state dwelling freeloaders need to hear. "America Love it or Leave it! Please leave red states!



Source please. I ask because New Mexico went democrat in the last two presidential elections.
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Source please
Here are some sources.

Which States Are Givers and Which Are Takers? - The Atlantic
www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/...states...takers/361668/
The Atlantic
May 5, 2014 - Analysts there set out to determine how states compare in terms of their reliance on federal funding. The states deemed "most dependent" by ...
2016's Most & Least Federally Dependent States | WalletHub®

https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal.../2700/
2016 States Most Least Dependent on the Federal Government The extent to ... Red vs. Blue States. Most-Least-Federally-Dependent-States-Blue-vs-Red- ...

Main Findings · ‎Red vs. Blue States · ‎Correlation Analysis
The states the most and least dependent on the federal government ...
www.businessinsider.com/the-states-the-most-and-least-dependent-on-...

Business Insider
Jul 20, 2015 - Every state receives different levels of funding from the federal government to help support its economy. Wallethub .... Red states vs. blue states.
GOP States Are The Most Dependent On Government - Huffington Post
www.huffingtonpost.com/.../republican-states-most-dependent-g...

The Huffington Post
Mar 26, 2014 - ... it is that some of us are makers, hard-working folk solely responsible for America's ... The states with elected officials most likely to espouse anti-taker ... Both states are highly dependent on federal funding as a percentage of state revenue. ..... How are those federal dollars vs. state dollars being spent?

Here are some chart and maps.

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Keep in mind, New Mexico has a Republican governor and the legislature has a Republican majority probably by gerrymandering. Republicans control the power within the state and Republicans wreck economies.

In the red states it is probably a combination of depraved Republican values and inept Republican leadership.


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Quoting limited to 3 levels deep1. New Mexico: $2.63
2. West Virginia: $2.57
3. Mississippi: $2.47

4. District of Colombia: $2.41
5. Hawaii: $2.38 Receives massive military spending.
6. Alabama: $2.03
7. Alaska: $1.93
8. Montana: $1.92
9. South Carolina: $1.92

10. Maine: $1.78
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Source please
Here are some sources.

Which States Are Givers and Which Are Takers? - The Atlantic
www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/...states...takers/361668/
The Atlantic
May 5, 2014 - Analysts there set out to determine how states compare in terms of their reliance on federal funding. The states deemed "most dependent" by ...
2016's Most & Least Federally Dependent States | WalletHub®

https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal.../2700/
2016 States Most Least Dependent on the Federal Government The extent to ... Red vs. Blue States. Most-Least-Federally-Dependent-States-Blue-vs-Red- ...

Main Findings · ‎Red vs. Blue States · ‎Correlation Analysis
The states the most and least dependent on the federal government ...
www.businessinsider.com/the-states-the-most-and-least-dependent-on-...

Business Insider
Jul 20, 2015 - Every state receives different levels of funding from the federal government to help support its economy. Wallethub .... Red states vs. blue states.
GOP States Are The Most Dependent On Government - Huffington Post
www.huffingtonpost.com/.../republican-states-most-dependent-g...

The Huffington Post
Mar 26, 2014 - ... it is that some of us are makers, hard-working folk solely responsible for America's ... The states with elected officials most likely to espouse anti-taker ... Both states are highly dependent on federal funding as a percentage of state revenue. ..... How are those federal dollars vs. state dollars being spent?

Here are some chart and maps.

Posted Image

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[IMG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/Map_of_USA_by_state_upperhouse.svg/2000px-
Map_of_USA_by_state_upperhouse.svg.png[/IMG]

Keep in mind, New Mexico has a Republican governor and the legislature has a Republican majority probably by gerrymandering. Republicans control the power within the state and Republicans wreck economies.

In the red states it is probably a combination of depraved Republican values and inept Republican leadership.


It's more incredible than that. Texas and Florida both lack income taxes which result in New Yorkers and Californians buying property to establish residence there; this allows some to wiggle out of large confiscatory tax rates even if they have a second house in a blue state. This further redistributes wealth from the blue to the red.
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Welcome back Apostle13
Not Apostle 13 sorry. What did you think of the video?

What do you think of the fact that the red states are the parasite states?

I think without the help of the Blue states the red states would turn into 3rd world nations.

Why do you think red states are so lazy and stupid?
Blue state voters are suckers who elect politicians who give their hard earned money to the red states. Perhaps you should reflect on why you support a large centralized government which redistributes money to the more wily red states?
Sounds to me like you think people who give Christian charity to the stupid and the children of the stupid and lazy are sucker. In your book Jesus would be a sucker.

Whoever is kind to the poor lends to the LORD, and he will reward them for what they have done. Proverbs 19:17

Maybe the reason that the blue state are prosperous and industrious in because God likes them better because they sin less? OR... perhaps it is because they have better and smarter leaders aka democrats?

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Blue state voters are suckers who elect politicians who give their hard earned money to the red states. Perhaps you should reflect on why you support a large centralized government which redistributes money to the more wily red states?
Sounds to me like you think people who give Christian charity to the stupid and the children of the stupid and lazy are sucker. In your book Jesus would be a sucker.

Whoever is kind to the poor lends to the LORD, and he will reward them for what they have done. Proverbs 19:17

Maybe the reason that the blue state are prosperous and industrious in because God likes them better because they sin less? OR... perhaps it is because they have better and smarter leaders aka democrats?

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If you believe the lie that New York is prosperous after a trip to Buffalo then we will be forced to conclude that you haven't waited for marijuana legalization to spread beyond Colorado. Of course, if NY got as many dollars back from the federal government as they send, the state would be able to afford to clean up all the toxic waste from the closed factories. As you said, the blue staters are suckers who elect politicians incapable of exctracting their fair share from the Federal Government. Texas doesn't have this problem. That state has crafty politicians who were able to secure federal financing for a direct rail link to the airport terminal to downtown Dallas. This feat eluded the less competent NY delegation.
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I curious why you refer to welfare recipients as parasites, only when it is politically expedient?
I'm using conservative Christian logic and there is a difference between individual people with real needs due to real hardship and disability. When it comes to the red states we are talking about detrimental effects of Republican governance and stupidity, ignorance, hypocrisy and sloth of most of an entire populace.

The righties whine about socialism yet they are the biggest recipients of what the thinks socialism is.

Laziness and freeloading in the least of the sinful decadent red state problems. The red states lead the country in all 7 deadly sins.

Christian "logic" also defines theft as a sin, thereby nullifying the entire social contract and its justification of taxation.

I just find it interesting that you pretty much justify the angst of taxpayers in ALL states to have angst towards what you define as societal "parasites" - or in other words those that do not work and ride in the cart.

Its a back door methodology to libertarianism, but you are on the right path.
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The true Christians are the blue states. They have more because they earned it and they share with the poor and the sinners.

Republicans are social Darwinists like their heroine Ayn Rand who calls charitable people parasites. Republicans love Ayn Rand and her sicko ramblings.

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Ayn Rand is their Goddess.


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Ayn Rand is the devil's mother.

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The true Christians are the blue states. They have more because they earned it and they share with the poor and the sinners.

Republicans are social Darwinists like their heroine Ayn Rand who calls charitable people parasites. Republicans love Ayn Rand and her sicko ramblings.

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Ayn Rand is their Goddess.


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Ayn Rand is the devil's mother.

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Jokes on the socialists for sending her social security checks.
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As you can see NYS is not an impoverished state and you claimed.

Top 10 Poorest States
50. Mississippi – Median household income: $39,680 Poverty rate: 21.5%
49. West Virginia – Median household income: $41,059 Poverty rate: 18.3%
48. Arkansas – Median household income: $41,262 Poverty rate: 18.9%
47. Alabama – Median household income: $42,830 Poverty rate: 19.3%
46. Kentucky – Median household income: $42,958 Poverty rate: 19.1%
45. Tennessee – Median household income: $44,361 Poverty rate: 18.3%
44. Louisiana – Median household income: $44,555 Poverty rate: 19.8%
43. New Mexico – Median household income: $44,803 Poverty rate: 21.3%
42. South Carolina – Median household income: $45,238 Poverty rate: 18.0%
41. Montana – Median household income: $46,328 Poverty rate: 15.4%


Top 10 Richest States

10. Minnesota – Median household income: $61,481 Poverty rate: 11.5%
9. California – Median household income: $61,933 Poverty rate: 16.4%
8. Virginia – Median household income: $64,902 Poverty rate: 11.8%
7. New Hampshire – Median household income: $66,532 Poverty rate: 9.2%
6. Massachusetts – Median household income: $69,160 Poverty rate: 11.6%
5. Hawaii – Median household income: $69,592 Poverty rate: 11.4%
4. Connecticut – Median household income: $70,048 Poverty rate: 10.8%
3. Alaska – Median household income: $71,583 Poverty rate: 11.2%
2. New Jersey – Median household income: $71,919 Poverty rate: 11.1%
1. Maryland- Median household income: $73,971 Poverty rate: 10.1%


Are the blue state people smarter and harder working? Do they have better leadership? Is it better leadership, smart people and harder workers?

The facts speak for themselves. The Red States are a drain on the US and they need to be gone ASAP!
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