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2015 Updated NOAA Tide Gauge Data Shows No Coastal Sea Level Rise Acceleration
Topic Started: May 29 2016, 11:41 AM (1,296 Views)
Attaburnsinhell

The_Edgitarian
Jun 5 2016, 06:34 PM
Scim
Jun 5 2016, 05:55 PM
As much of Louisiana and Florida are evacuated will you be cheering? Will you support taxpayer bailouts of the pension and insurance companies as the coastal property bubble pops? Or will you just pop a thrilled boner at the following financial crisis and suffering of your fellow Americans?
No, they should have never insured localities that disproportionately vote democrat. It will be highly satisfying when these coastal progressives lose their homes.
Practically every red state is in the crosshairs of flooding, the Carolinas, Georgia, Florida, Mississippi Alabama, La. and Texas

You arent very bright, are you? :box:
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W A Mozart
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W A Mozart
Jun 7 2016, 02:53 PM
Scim
Jun 5 2016, 03:04 PM
The blog post in the OP is, as we say in Britain, bollocks. It's got enough numbers to trick people, but would definitely fail a first year stats course.

Here and here are two posts by an actual statistician. It certainly looks like sea level rise has accelerated: from 1933-1999 it rose along the Atlantic coast at 2.9 mm/year but from 2000-2015 it's up to 4.8 mm/year. Need more stats to be sure, but satellites show that real sea level rise is now about twice the rate it was last century.
Bupkis! Double bupkis....!

Let's go back to the original point of this thread: There has been no accelerated increase in water levels for the past 50 years. None. Nada. Nichts. Ueberhaupt nichts! Nothing.

The sea levels have been on a very MILD upward slope of increase for centuries. That's it. There has been NO change to the very, very gentle rise in sea levels. The NOAA tidal gauge measurements. 200 coastal locations. This was the quote from the above referenced thread:

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In all more than 200 coastal locations are included in these measurements with more than 100 of these coastal locations with recorded data periods in excess of 50 years in duration. None of these updated NOAA tide gauge measurement data records show coastal location sea level rise acceleration occurring anywhere on the U.S. coasts or Pacific or Atlantic island groups.



You lose!


No sea level rise. Nothing. No global warming, ....all of it a 1.5 trillion dollar fraud. (period)


Mozart
Furthermore:

The case made by the skeptics.....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gDErDwXqhc


Mozart
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Scim

W A Mozart
Jun 7 2016, 09:17 PM
Furthermore:

The case made by the skeptics.....
Why do they use youtube videos rather than putting their ideas through expert review at a proper journal?
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Scim

W A Mozart
Jun 7 2016, 02:53 PM
Let's go back to the original point of this thread: There has been no accelerated increase in water levels for the past 50 years. None. Nada. Nichts. Ueberhaupt nichts! Nothing.

The sea levels have been on a very MILD upward slope of increase for centuries. That's it. There has been NO change to the very, very gentle rise in sea levels. The NOAA tidal gauge measurements. 200 coastal locations. This was the quote from the above referenced thread:

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In all more than 200 coastal locations are included in these measurements with more than 100 of these coastal locations with recorded data periods in excess of 50 years in duration. None of these updated NOAA tide gauge measurement data records show coastal location sea level rise acceleration occurring anywhere on the U.S. coasts or Pacific or Atlantic island groups.



You lose!


No sea level rise. Nothing. No global warming, ....all of it a 1.5 trillion dollar fraud. (period)


Mozart
Which statistical tests did they use? Exactly which calculations?

Here's the global tide gauge record from Church & White, with a straight line to show what it would look like with no acceleration. Do you think there is no sea level rise?

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Scim

Robertr2000
Jun 7 2016, 07:00 PM
I live at Sea Level. No Sea Level change.
Where and for how long? The rate of sea level rise is different in different places. I have friends in Florida who regularly share photos on Facebook showing that their flooded streets are real and happening often.

In Alaska it's even falling, mostly because trillions of tonnes of ice have melted and the ice underneath is now springing up like a boat with its cargo dumped.
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Scim
Jun 7 2016, 11:59 PM
W A Mozart
Jun 7 2016, 02:53 PM
Let's go back to the original point of this thread: There has been no accelerated increase in water levels for the past 50 years. None. Nada. Nichts. Ueberhaupt nichts! Nothing.

The sea levels have been on a very MILD upward slope of increase for centuries. That's it. There has been NO change to the very, very gentle rise in sea levels. The NOAA tidal gauge measurements. 200 coastal locations. This was the quote from the above referenced thread:

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In all more than 200 coastal locations are included in these measurements with more than 100 of these coastal locations with recorded data periods in excess of 50 years in duration. None of these updated NOAA tide gauge measurement data records show coastal location sea level rise acceleration occurring anywhere on the U.S. coasts or Pacific or Atlantic island groups.



You lose!


No sea level rise. Nothing. No global warming, ....all of it a 1.5 trillion dollar fraud. (period)


Mozart
Which statistical tests did they use? Exactly which calculations?

Here's the global tide gauge record from Church & White, with a straight line to show what it would look like with no acceleration. Do you think there is no sea level rise?

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Complete, utter, ...nonsense!


You post a silly graph from White and Church showing a gradual, yet minimal, rise in sea levels and you expect us to believe this nonsense as proof? Proof of what? One more time, there has been NO accelerated rise in sea levels for over 50 years.

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In all more than 200 coastal locations are included in these measurements with more than 100 of these coastal locations with recorded data periods in excess of 50 years in duration. None of these updated NOAA tide gauge measurement data records show coastal location sea level rise acceleration occurring anywhere on the U.S. coasts or Pacific or Atlantic island groups.


Read that again, this time s-l-o-w-l-y....None

That sea levels have being slowly rising for centuries, ...pre-dating any of this global warming crappola?

My proof from the NOAA stands! It's over. No unusual rising sea levels, ...period!

http://notrickszone.com/2016/01/03/new-paper-by-renowned-sea-level-expert-nils-axel-morner-calls-agw-a-new-religion-built-on-false-premises/#sthash.HVWEtafB.dpbs

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As the pictured cover abstract above shows, Mörner concludes that AGW is a “new religion” built on “false premises” and that it violates physical laws. He adds that “the calculated temperature changes from 102 climate models lie above measured values by a factor of three“.

Bild in Originalgröße anzeigen Few scientists have published as much on the subjects of sea level rise, paleo-geophysics and geodynamics as Nils-Axel Mörner has. He is also a co-founder of the Prague-based Independent Committee on Geoethics.

AGW “an illusion”

In a recent article Mörner also called CO2-driven global warming “an illusion” and that scientists “who insist that present climate changes are the function of CO2-driven global warming” place themselves in the “shameful box of anti-science“.

Photo: Nils-Axel Mörner

- See more at: http://notrickszone.com/2016/01/03/new-paper-by-renowned-sea-level-expert-nils-axel-morner-calls-agw-a-new-religion-built-on-false-premises/#sthash.HVWEtafB.hhwKdOsH.dpuf


My expert, Nils-Axel Moerner agrees with me! No sea level rise!


Mozart
Edited by W A Mozart, Jun 8 2016, 04:51 PM.
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Scim
Jun 8 2016, 12:10 AM
Robertr2000
Jun 7 2016, 07:00 PM
I live at Sea Level. No Sea Level change.
Where and for how long? The rate of sea level rise is different in different places. I have friends in Florida who regularly share photos on Facebook showing that their flooded streets are real and happening often.

In Alaska it's even falling, mostly because trillions of tonnes of ice have melted and the ice underneath is now springing up like a boat with its cargo dumped.
California delta. 10 years.

Streets have always flooded in Florida. But... Maybe the land there is sinking.
Edited by Robertr2000, Jun 8 2016, 05:01 PM.
"if that **** wins we'll all hang from nooses"
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And furthermore....!

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Firstly, hundreds of tide gauges show sea level rising at about a third of the rate than satellites do. Worse, the original satellite raw data showed the same slow rise, until it was suddenly adjusted. The real scandal is that the rapidly rising trend was largely created by adjustments in the first place. These latest corrections just adjust down part of the rate which had been created by adjusting up. On top of all that, the long paleo-history of sea levels done by people like Nils-Axel Mörner show that the current rise is not unusual or unprecedented at all. Could it get more pointless? It can: the acceleration Watson et al found is so small it’s less than the errors. (See the graph below).

The conclusion of the paper is that instead of the sea levels rising at 3.2mm/yr as per the official satellite data, the are rising at 2.3mm/yr + 0.043mm/yr2 of acceleration. Over a century that means the projected sea level rise is revised downwards from 320mm to 251mm. That means sea level rise on current trends has dropped off the bottom end of any UNIPCC projection for sea level rise (AR5 WG1 SPM) for the period 2081-2100, as against 1985-2005. The likely range is between 260 and 820mm under all scenarios. The projection (mid-point 400mm) range is based on succeeding in cutting global emissions to near zero before 2100.


An excellent article on sea level changes...
http://www.climatechangedispatch.com/the-scandal-of-sea-levels-rising-trends-acceleration-largely-created-by-adjustments.html

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Sea level is not rising
Professor Nils-Axel Mörner
Main points

Click to read the full paper at SPPI
-At most, global average sea level is rising at a rate equivalent to 2-3 inches per century. It is probably not rising at all.
-Sea level is measured both by tide gauges and, since 1992, by satellite altimetry. One of the keepers of the satellite record told Professor -Mörner that the record had been interfered with to show sea level rising, because the raw data from the satellites showed no increase in global sea level at all.
-The raw data from the TOPEX/POSEIDON sea-level satellites, which operated from 1993-2000, shows a slight uptrend in sea level. However, after exclusion of the distorting effects of the Great El Niño Southern Oscillation of 1997/1998, a naturally-occurring event, the sea-level trend is zero.
-The GRACE gravitational-anomaly satellites are able to measure ocean mass, from which sea-level change can be directly calculated. The -GRACE data show that sea level fell slightly from 2002-2007.
-These two distinct satellite systems, using very different measurement methods, produced raw data reaching identical conclusions: sea level is barely rising, if at all.
Sea level is not rising at all in the Maldives, the Laccadives, Tuvalu, India, Bangladesh, French Guyana, Venice, Cuxhaven, Korsør, Saint Paul Island, Qatar, etc.
-In the Maldives, a group of Australian environmental scientists uprooted a 50-year-old tree by the shoreline, aiming to conceal the fact that its location indicated that sea level had not been rising. This is a further indication of political tampering with scientific evidence about sea level.
-Modelling is not a suitable method of determining global sea-level changes, since a proper evaluation depends upon detailed research in multiple locations with widely-differing characteristics. The true facts are to be found in nature itself.
-Since sea level is not rising, the chief ground of concern at the potential effects of anthropogenic “global warming” – that millions of shore-dwellers the world over may be displaced as the oceans expand – is baseless.
We are facing a very grave, unethical “sea-level-gate”.


http://joannenova.com.au/2012/12/are-sea-levels-rising-nils-axel-morner-documents-a-decided-lack-of-rising-seas/


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"Global Warming" is a scheme to bring in a global "Carbon-Tax" to fund world Government/Control.
"if that **** wins we'll all hang from nooses"
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For Al Gore global warming was a scheme to buy a California beachfront property at a low price.......... :biggrin:
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Attaburnsinhell
Jun 7 2016, 08:48 PM
The_Edgitarian
Jun 5 2016, 06:34 PM
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Jun 5 2016, 05:55 PM
As much of Louisiana and Florida are evacuated will you be cheering? Will you support taxpayer bailouts of the pension and insurance companies as the coastal property bubble pops? Or will you just pop a thrilled boner at the following financial crisis and suffering of your fellow Americans?
No, they should have never insured localities that disproportionately vote democrat. It will be highly satisfying when these coastal progressives lose their homes.
Practically every red state is in the crosshairs of flooding, the Carolinas, Georgia, Florida, Mississippi Alabama, La. and Texas

You arent very bright, are you? :box:
Most cities in the South were built inland. Cities such as Boston, New York, San Francisco, and Philadelphia will be justly inundated for their perversion of supporting the Democratic Party.
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