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Obama wants to rewrite American history as he deconstructs our society.; He chose Memorial Day weekend to go to Hiroshima and apologize
Topic Started: May 29 2016, 05:03 PM (1,523 Views)
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More trash from the Internet picked up by our resident right-wing liars. Truth is of no importance to these posters.
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May 29 2016, 11:07 PM
More trash from the Internet picked up by our resident right-wing liars. Truth is of no importance to these posters.
To such people "truth" is whatever they happen to believe. Facts are irrelevant and just muddle the issue.
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May 29 2016, 05:23 PM
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May 29 2016, 05:07 PM
No one has disrespected Veterans like Mr. Trump has.

Ask Senator McCain.

I thought McCain was a propaganda broadcaster for North Vietnam................ :confused:
John McCain graduate from the Naval Academy in 1958. He was a Navy pilot and flew ground support missions off an aircraft carrier. During the Vietnam war he was nearly killed in the 1967 USS Forrestal fire. In late 1967, he was shot down over Hanoi and severely wounded. He was a prisoner of war from 1967 to 1973, during which time he was tortured. He refused an out of sequence early repatriation. His war wounds, including the damage done when the North Vietnamese tortured him, means that he can no longer lift his arms higher than his shoulders.

Meanwhile, Donald Trump graduated from college in 1968. And while John McCain was either flying missions to support U.S. ground troops in Vietnam or in a Vietnamese prison camp, Donald Trump received a series of deferments from the draft and and therefore never had to serve.

Maybe you should shut the hell up about trying to disparage John McCain's war record.
POWs are not supposed to consort with the enemy...That is grounds for a court martial (unless your daddy is commander of the Pacific Fleet)...What makes McCain so different than Bergdahl ???...McCain, nicknamed "songbird" by his guards, was not tortured until he stopped participating in enemy propaganda broadcasts....Perhaps you should take a closer look at his war record and not so much at his manufactured stories......... :dunno:
Edited by Robert Stout, May 30 2016, 01:03 AM.
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Hmm, I'm watching President Obama lay a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. Seems he is on US soil participating in Memorial Day services and remembering our soldiers.

I would say thread fail.
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May 30 2016, 12:59 AM
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John McCain graduate from the Naval Academy in 1958. He was a Navy pilot and flew ground support missions off an aircraft carrier. During the Vietnam war he was nearly killed in the 1967 USS Forrestal fire. In late 1967, he was shot down over Hanoi and severely wounded. He was a prisoner of war from 1967 to 1973, during which time he was tortured. He refused an out of sequence early repatriation. His war wounds, including the damage done when the North Vietnamese tortured him, means that he can no longer lift his arms higher than his shoulders.

Meanwhile, Donald Trump graduated from college in 1968. And while John McCain was either flying missions to support U.S. ground troops in Vietnam or in a Vietnamese prison camp, Donald Trump received a series of deferments from the draft and and therefore never had to serve.

Maybe you should shut the hell up about trying to disparage John McCain's war record.
POWs are not supposed to consort with the enemy...That is grounds for a court martial (unless your daddy is commander of the Pacific Fleet)...What makes McCain so different than Bergdahl ???...McCain, nicknamed "songbird" by his guards, was not tortured until he stopped participating in enemy propaganda broadcasts....Perhaps you should take a closer look at his war record and not so much at his manufactured stories......... :dunno:
Every man, and I mean every man, has his limits. Have you ever been tortured? How long do you really think you'd hold out? My guess is, probably not as long as McCain.

Don't judge a man unless you can walk in his shoes and do better.
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John McCain graduate from the Naval Academy in 1958. He was a Navy pilot and flew ground support missions off an aircraft carrier. During the Vietnam war he was nearly killed in the 1967 USS Forrestal fire. In late 1967, he was shot down over Hanoi and severely wounded. He was a prisoner of war from 1967 to 1973, during which time he was tortured. He refused an out of sequence early repatriation. His war wounds, including the damage done when the North Vietnamese tortured him, means that he can no longer lift his arms higher than his shoulders.

Meanwhile, Donald Trump graduated from college in 1968. And while John McCain was either flying missions to support U.S. ground troops in Vietnam or in a Vietnamese prison camp, Donald Trump received a series of deferments from the draft and and therefore never had to serve.

Maybe you should shut the hell up about trying to disparage John McCain's war record.
POWs are not supposed to consort with the enemy...That is grounds for a court martial (unless your daddy is commander of the Pacific Fleet)...What makes McCain so different than Bergdahl ???...McCain, nicknamed "songbird" by his guards, was not tortured until he stopped participating in enemy propaganda broadcasts....Perhaps you should take a closer look at his war record and not so much at his manufactured stories......... :dunno:
Have you ever actually listened to one of these "broadcasts"?
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POWs are not supposed to consort with the enemy...That is grounds for a court martial (unless your daddy is commander of the Pacific Fleet)...What makes McCain so different than Bergdahl ???...McCain, nicknamed "songbird" by his guards, was not tortured until he stopped participating in enemy propaganda broadcasts....Perhaps you should take a closer look at his war record and not so much at his manufactured stories......... :dunno:
Every man, and I mean every man, has his limits. Have you ever been tortured? How long do you really think you'd hold out? My guess is, probably not as long as McCain.

Don't judge a man unless you can walk in his shoes and do better.
I have watched many become heroes, most died doing it, yet none became heroes by surrendering...Like Trump said, "I prefer heroes who don't surrender"...McCain was tortured no more than other POWs and not until after his treasonous acts....I was never a POW but I came close once....I was never tortured, because I think I would have decided to die fighting before capture....How many troops in South Vietnam were captured or decided to die first ????...Indeed, who were our greatest generation ???.............. :banghead:
Edited by Robert Stout, May 30 2016, 03:54 PM.
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Every man, and I mean every man, has his limits. Have you ever been tortured? How long do you really think you'd hold out? My guess is, probably not as long as McCain.

Don't judge a man unless you can walk in his shoes and do better.
I have watched many become heroes, most died doing it, yet none became heroes by surrendering...Like Trump said, "I prefer heroes who don't surrender"...McCain was tortured no more than other POWs and not until after his treasonous acts....I was never a POW but I came close once....I was never tortured, because I think I would have decided to die fighting before capture....How many troops in South Vietnam were captured or decided to die first ????...Indeed, who were our greatest generation ???.............. :banghead:
Can you provide a link to one of these pre-torture propaganda broadcasts?
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POWs are not supposed to consort with the enemy...That is grounds for a court martial (unless your daddy is commander of the Pacific Fleet)...What makes McCain so different than Bergdahl ???...McCain, nicknamed "songbird" by his guards, was not tortured until he stopped participating in enemy propaganda broadcasts....Perhaps you should take a closer look at his war record and not so much at his manufactured stories......... :dunno:
Have you ever actually listened to one of these "broadcasts"?
One in which he praised the good medical care and treatment he received from the NVA....(I also heard Jane Fonda call us war criminals)....They were apparently tapes replayed on "Radio Free Hanoi"............ :biggrin:
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I have watched many become heroes, most died doing it, yet none became heroes by surrendering...Like Trump said, "I prefer heroes who don't surrender"...McCain was tortured no more than other POWs and not until after his treasonous acts....I was never a POW but I came close once....I was never tortured, because I think I would have decided to die fighting before capture....How many troops in South Vietnam were captured or decided to die first ????...Indeed, who were our greatest generation ???.............. :banghead:
Can you provide a link to one of these pre-torture propaganda broadcasts?
No...But you may be able to get a transcript from Hanoi.....I doubt our government will not allow one to be available............... ;)
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Have you ever actually listened to one of these "broadcasts"?
One in which he praised the good medical care and treatment he received from the NVA....(I also heard Jane Fonda call us war criminals)....They were apparently tapes replayed on "Radio Free Hanoi"............ :biggrin:
I'm not concerned with Hanoi Jane, I'm talking specifically about a propaganda broadcast made by US Naval aviator giving aid and comfort to the enemy, goes by McCain. please provide a link.
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May 30 2016, 11:31 AM
Hmm, I'm watching President Obama lay a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. Seems he is on US soil participating in Memorial Day services and remembering our soldiers.

I would say thread fail.
But, but, but--the thread author CLEARLY stated President Obama chose to go to Hiroshima for Memorial Day Weekend:


He chose Memorial Day weekend to go to Hiroshima and apologize about the day “death fell from the sky and the world was changed.”


Of course, he was mistaken about Obama apologizing also.


Double thread fail.
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One in which he praised the good medical care and treatment he received from the NVA....(I also heard Jane Fonda call us war criminals)....They were apparently tapes replayed on "Radio Free Hanoi"............ :biggrin:
I'm not concerned with Hanoi Jane, I'm talking specifically about a propaganda broadcast made by US Naval aviator giving aid and comfort to the enemy, goes by McCain. please provide a link.
I almost never provide a link, but I like you so try-------
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2008/10/prweb/1547284.htm
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I'm not concerned with Hanoi Jane, I'm talking specifically about a propaganda broadcast made by US Naval aviator giving aid and comfort to the enemy, goes by McCain. please provide a link.
I almost never provide a link, but I like you so try-------
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2008/10/prweb/1547284.htm
Your link was a documentary who alleges he made them???? I have perused multiple sites, some say 32, others 38 broadcasts, but nowhere can I find the actual broadcasts he was alleged to have made, now if you're going to have a documentary saying you made them...then the maker of that movie should be able to provide some actual broadcasts? Just saying.
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I almost never provide a link, but I like you so try-------
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2008/10/prweb/1547284.htm
Your link was a documentary who alleges he made them???? I have perused multiple sites, some say 32, others 38 broadcasts, but nowhere can I find the actual broadcasts he was alleged to have made, now if you're going to have a documentary saying you made them...then the maker of that movie should be able to provide some actual broadcasts? Just saying.
Did he make such broadcasts? I don't know. And I don't really care. Anyone if tortured long enough will say what the enemy wants to them to say, that's why torture isn't particularly effective at eliciting the truth.
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I almost never provide a link, but I like you so try-------
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2008/10/prweb/1547284.htm
Your link was a documentary who alleges he made them???? I have perused multiple sites, some say 32, others 38 broadcasts, but nowhere can I find the actual broadcasts he was alleged to have made, now if you're going to have a documentary saying you made them...then the maker of that movie should be able to provide some actual broadcasts? Just saying.
For transcripts of ONE interview with McCain, try, http://www.newtotalitarians.com/index_files/McCainsanglikeacanary.htm...........Buried deep in DoD and CIA files there may still be actual recordings of his broadcasts, but McCain was instrumental in having all POW records sealed for eternity by act of Congress............;) ;)
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We should have not even been in that war in the first place.
You may be a conservative republican..if you are pro life until you get your mistress knocked up
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Your link was a documentary who alleges he made them???? I have perused multiple sites, some say 32, others 38 broadcasts, but nowhere can I find the actual broadcasts he was alleged to have made, now if you're going to have a documentary saying you made them...then the maker of that movie should be able to provide some actual broadcasts? Just saying.
For transcripts of ONE interview with McCain, try, http://www.newtotalitarians.com/index_files/McCainsanglikeacanary.htm...........Buried deep in DoD and CIA files there may still be actual recordings of his broadcasts, but McCain was instrumental in having all POW records sealed for eternity by act of Congress............;) ;)
Right, so essentially you got bumpkins...bout what I thought. The man was tortured, and refused to be repatriated early even when it was known who his father was. That alone aces him in my book.
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May 30 2016, 05:20 PM
We should have not even been in that war in the first place.
Agreed...You don't send Americans 7,000 miles away to fight over a stink'n rice paddy...If you have a domino theory, stay home and play dominos.......... :oyvey
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For transcripts of ONE interview with McCain, try, http://www.newtotalitarians.com/index_files/McCainsanglikeacanary.htm...........Buried deep in DoD and CIA files there may still be actual recordings of his broadcasts, but McCain was instrumental in having all POW records sealed for eternity by act of Congress............;) ;)
Right, so essentially you got bumpkins...bout what I thought. The man was tortured, and refused to be repatriated early even when it was known who his father was. That alone aces him in my book.
Everyone sets their own standards of behavior............... :dunno:
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