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And the most honest candidate is...
Topic Started: May 30 2016, 05:23 PM (1,667 Views)
Two a.m.
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I compiled a list from Politifact of every candidate who had at least a handful of statements rated...(sorry George Pataki)...

Anyway of those ranked, from most accurate to least accurate by the percentage of true or mostly true statements.

1) Jim Webb 80
2) John Kasich 53
3) Bernie Sanders52
4) Hillary Clinton50
Bobby Jindal50
6) Jeb Bush 48
7) Rand Paul 46
8) Lincoln Chaffee39
Chris Christie39
Lindsey Graham 39
11) Marco Rubio36
12) Scott Walker35
13) Rick Perry 29
14) Carly Fiorina28
15) Mike Huckabee27
16) Ted Cruz 24
17) Martin O’Malley 22
Rick Santorum22
19) Donald Trump8
20) Ben Carson7


Technically, while Webb gets the honors here for truthfulness, both he and Jindal had few ranked statements so it is probably really Kasich who is most truthful followed by Sanders and then Clinton.

The least accurate as ranked by percentage of mostly false, false and pants on fire statements:

1) Ben Carson 82
2) Donald Trump76
3) Ted Cruz 64
4) Carly Fiorina55
Rick Santorum55
6) Mike Huckabee51
7) Rick Perry 47
8) Scott Walker46
9) Lincoln Chaffee45
10) Marco Rubio42
11) Rand Paul 36
12) Chris Christie35
13) Lindsey Graham 34
14) John Kasich32
15) Jeb Bush 31
16) Bernie Sanders30
17) Hillary Clinton28
18) Martin O’Malley 23
19) Bobby Jindal10
Jim Webb 10

Meanwhile, those with the biggest "pants on fire" percentage - the ones who most commonly said the craziest untrue stuff...

1) Donald Trump19
2) Ben Carson 14
3) Rick Perry 11
4) Mike Huckabee10
5) Carly Fiorina9
6) Chris Christie8
Rick Santorum8
8) Ted Cruz 7
Scott Walker7
10) Rand Paul 6
11) John Kasich5
12) Jeb Bush 3
Marco Rubio3
14) Hillary Clinton1
15) Lincoln Chaffee0
Lindsey Graham 0
Bobby Jindal0
Martin O’Malley 0
Bernie Sanders0
Jim Webb 0
Edited by Two a.m., May 30 2016, 05:24 PM.
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I say that big talk's worth doodly-squat
The title is misleadin!!! Thar ain't an honest one in the bunch!!!

Just caws someone makes a truthful statement ever now an then, don't make em honest!!!

Edited by grannyhawkins, May 30 2016, 05:37 PM.
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Hillary even registering on a list of honest persons invalidates the entire list...
Donald Trump is Barack Obama's President!
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May 30 2016, 06:37 PM
Hillary even registering on a list of honest persons invalidates the entire list...
Translation: I refuse to believe something therefore any source which presents information conflicting with my preexisting belief must be faulty somehow.
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Sorry buddy.. Politifact is the equivalent of FOX.

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2013/05/28/study-finds-fact-checkers-biased-against-republicans

According to the American Heritage dictionary, the definition of "fact" is: 1) Knowledge or information based on real occurrences; 2) Something demonstrated to exist or known to have existed; or 3) A thing that has been done, especially a crime. The last is especially interesting since the way fact-checking has been employed in the last two election cycles is as near to a crime as a journalist can commit.

Now comes a study from the George Mason University Center for Media and Public Affairs that demonstrates empirically that PolitiFact.org, one of the nation's leading "fact checkers," finds that Republicans are dishonest in their claims three times as often as Democrats. "PolitiFact.com has rated Republican claims as false three times as often as Democratic claims during President Obama's second term," the Center said in a release, "despite controversies over Obama administration statements on Benghazi, the IRS and the AP."
Trump needs to focus more so on the male vote. He should have nationalized the Boy Scouts when they decided to admit girls.

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May 30 2016, 06:37 PM
Hillary even registering on a list of honest persons invalidates the entire list...
:rotflmao:
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May 30 2016, 06:47 PM
Sorry buddy.. Politifact is the equivalent of FOX.

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2013/05/28/study-finds-fact-checkers-biased-against-republicans

According to the American Heritage dictionary, the definition of "fact" is: 1) Knowledge or information based on real occurrences; 2) Something demonstrated to exist or known to have existed; or 3) A thing that has been done, especially a crime. The last is especially interesting since the way fact-checking has been employed in the last two election cycles is as near to a crime as a journalist can commit.

Now comes a study from the George Mason University Center for Media and Public Affairs that demonstrates empirically that PolitiFact.org, one of the nation's leading "fact checkers," finds that Republicans are dishonest in their claims three times as often as Democrats. "PolitiFact.com has rated Republican claims as false three times as often as Democratic claims during President Obama's second term," the Center said in a release, "despite controversies over Obama administration statements on Benghazi, the IRS and the AP."
If a researcher finds more people reading books at a library than at a movie theater, it doesn't mean the researcher is biased. More people probably are reading books in one location than another. Likewise, a lack of bias doesn't mean you will find that politicians from the two parties lie at precisely the same rate. Sometimes, one party may lie more. Reporting this accurately is not evidence of slant. Incidentally, Glenn Kessler, the fact checker mentioned in your article, while mostly informative, has a fairly strong anti-Obama bias and a tendency to judge his statements more harshly. However, he is NOT associated with Politifact, nor should problems with his judgement somehow reflect poorly on them.

That said, this list is not meant to be scientific. A wide variety of factors influence a rating including how many statements are rated and how often people request a rating. Editorial selection plays a role as well though not usually through direct bias. Honesty is hard to measure scientifically.

Regardless, Politifact is pretty honest and straightforward and these ratings do seem to point to semi-meaningful patterns. I have not seen an indication that Politifact slants things toward Democrats. The study presented in the article is very poorly done. It assumes a conclusion (i.e. that both parties lie equally) and then indicts Politifact as biased for failing to reach that preceding assumption. In fact, it is the assumption that is far more questionable than Politifact's integrity.
Edited by Two a.m., May 30 2016, 07:13 PM.
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Two a.m.
May 30 2016, 06:43 PM
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May 30 2016, 06:37 PM
Hillary even registering on a list of honest persons invalidates the entire list...
Translation: I refuse to believe something therefore any source which presents information conflicting with my preexisting belief must be faulty somehow.
You expect me to believe the results derived from a so called fact checking organization that has not checked Hillary Clinton's many claims regarding her email server? Really?

Perhaps you should take a look at this site if you would like a profoundly more comprehensive list of her "indiscretions"...mind you this list is just from 2015.

http://lidblog.com/hillary-clinton-2015-a-year-of-111-scandals-lies-andor-flip-flops/
Edited by Right-Wing, May 30 2016, 08:18 PM.
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Hillary is the only politician on the list who is at risk of going to prison...Perhaps they should have a list for those under FBI investigation............ :dunno:
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Clinton and honesty in the same sentence?
Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind.
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If anyone, Trump should be on top of the honesty list. The man tells it like it is.
Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind.
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May 30 2016, 10:25 PM
If anyone, Trump should be on top of the honesty list. The man tells it like it is.
Trump is less honest and accurate in his statements about himself, his opponents and the issues than any major party nominee I have ever seen in my lifetime from either party.

By far. It's not even close.

And that's saying something.
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May 30 2016, 10:25 PM
If anyone, Trump should be on top of the honesty list. The man tells it like it is.
There may be some truth in his narratives..however, he shovels as much bulls**t..if not more than any politician.

Trump appeals to your own basest nature and tendency to stereotype those whom you disagree with.
You may be a conservative republican..if you are pro life until you get your mistress knocked up
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Two a.m.
May 30 2016, 10:45 PM
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May 30 2016, 10:25 PM
If anyone, Trump should be on top of the honesty list. The man tells it like it is.
Trump is less honest and accurate in his statements about himself, his opponents and the issues than any major party nominee I have ever seen in my lifetime from either party.

By far. It's not even close.

And that's saying something.
Drudgex is a cautionary tale about how embracing the politics of spite makes one easy to manipulate by a charlatan like Trump.
You may be a conservative republican..if you are pro life until you get your mistress knocked up
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Ah those conservatives don't like the news.

I bet they want a flimflam man for the highest office in the land.
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Donald Trump is Barack Obama's President!
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May 30 2016, 10:49 PM
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May 30 2016, 10:25 PM
If anyone, Trump should be on top of the honesty list. The man tells it like it is.
There may be some truth in his narratives..however, he shovels as much bulls**t..if not more than any politician.

Trump appeals to your own basest nature and tendency to stereotype those whom you disagree with.
Don't know about you but I prefer face value bulls*** than having to deal with the bulls*** that blindsided you. That kind of tactic is Clinton's masterpiece.
Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind.
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May 31 2016, 12:43 AM
Adolph Hipster
May 30 2016, 10:49 PM
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May 30 2016, 10:25 PM
If anyone, Trump should be on top of the honesty list. The man tells it like it is.
There may be some truth in his narratives..however, he shovels as much bulls**t..if not more than any politician.

Trump appeals to your own basest nature and tendency to stereotype those whom you disagree with.
Don't know about you but I prefer face value bulls*** than having to deal with the bulls*** that blindsided you. That kind of tactic is Clinton's masterpiece.
In other words..bulls**t is ok when it comes from a republican but not from a democrat
You may be a conservative republican..if you are pro life until you get your mistress knocked up
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May 31 2016, 01:00 AM
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May 31 2016, 12:43 AM
Adolph Hipster
May 30 2016, 10:49 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepThere may be some truth in his narratives..however, he shovels as much bulls**t..if not more than any politician.

Trump appeals to your own basest nature and tendency to stereotype those whom you disagree with.
Don't know about you but I prefer face value bulls*** than having to deal with the bulls*** that blindsided you. That kind of tactic is Clinton's masterpiece.
In other words..bulls**t is ok when it comes from a republican but not from a democrat
No, the straightforward kind of bs doesn't frighten me. It's the gotcha kind of bs that frightens me.

Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind.
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May 31 2016, 01:17 AM
Adolph Hipster
May 31 2016, 01:00 AM
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May 31 2016, 12:43 AM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepThere may be some truth in his narratives..however, he shovels as much bulls**t..if not more than any politician.

Trump appeals to your own basest nature and tendency to stereotype those whom you disagree with.
In other words..bulls**t is ok when it comes from a republican but not from a democrat
No, the straightforward kind of bs doesn't frighten me. It's the gotcha kind of bs that frightens me.

Whatever..you always assume that democrats are shoveling BS. so how can you be blindsided by it?
Admit it..you are a partisan hack operating from a platform of spite.
You may be a conservative republican..if you are pro life until you get your mistress knocked up
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