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And the most honest candidate is...
Topic Started: May 30 2016, 05:23 PM (1,670 Views)
ringotuna
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Two a.m.
May 30 2016, 05:23 PM
I compiled a list from Politifact of every candidate who had at least a handful of statements rated...(sorry George Pataki)...

Anyway of those ranked, from most accurate to least accurate by the percentage of true or mostly true statements.

1) Jim Webb 80
2) John Kasich 53
3) Bernie Sanders52
4) Hillary Clinton50
Bobby Jindal50
6) Jeb Bush 48
7) Rand Paul 46
8) Lincoln Chaffee39
Chris Christie39
Lindsey Graham 39
11) Marco Rubio36
12) Scott Walker35
13) Rick Perry 29
14) Carly Fiorina28
15) Mike Huckabee27
16) Ted Cruz 24
17) Martin O’Malley 22
Rick Santorum22
19) Donald Trump8
20) Ben Carson7


Technically, while Webb gets the honors here for truthfulness, both he and Jindal had few ranked statements so it is probably really Kasich who is most truthful followed by Sanders and then Clinton.

The least accurate as ranked by percentage of mostly false, false and pants on fire statements:

1) Ben Carson 82
2) Donald Trump76
3) Ted Cruz 64
4) Carly Fiorina55
Rick Santorum55
6) Mike Huckabee51
7) Rick Perry 47
8) Scott Walker46
9) Lincoln Chaffee45
10) Marco Rubio42
11) Rand Paul 36
12) Chris Christie35
13) Lindsey Graham 34
14) John Kasich32
15) Jeb Bush 31
16) Bernie Sanders30
17) Hillary Clinton28
18) Martin O’Malley 23
19) Bobby Jindal10
Jim Webb 10

Meanwhile, those with the biggest "pants on fire" percentage - the ones who most commonly said the craziest untrue stuff...

1) Donald Trump19
2) Ben Carson 14
3) Rick Perry 11
4) Mike Huckabee10
5) Carly Fiorina9
6) Chris Christie8
Rick Santorum8
8) Ted Cruz 7
Scott Walker7
10) Rand Paul 6
11) John Kasich5
12) Jeb Bush 3
Marco Rubio3
14) Hillary Clinton1
15) Lincoln Chaffee0
Lindsey Graham 0
Bobby Jindal0
Martin O’Malley 0
Bernie Sanders0
Jim Webb 0
Slow news day Two?
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We have a saying in my business. "Garbage In, Garbage Out". While I would trust the folks at PolitiFact to accurately portray individual statements, I'm far more skeptical of their summaries. There is simply too much editorial discretion given regarding which statements they choose to fact check. There is simply to much latitude for cherry picking what goes into the survey to trust what comes out of the survey.
Edited by ringotuna, May 31 2016, 07:03 AM.
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I'm happy for the gop. They finally got a real conservative. There's no way he can lose...
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May 31 2016, 11:51 AM
I'm happy for the gop. They finally got a real conservative. There's no way he can lose...
Trump is not winning because he is a conservative or "honest"...He is winning because he is not a political whore...This is not your father's election...Even a commie would win if he were nominated...That shows what the American voter cares about in this election....Our controlled media is aghast that the public is no longer believing their BS............... :oyvey
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Robert Stout
May 31 2016, 12:17 PM
Dem4life
May 31 2016, 11:51 AM
I'm happy for the gop. They finally got a real conservative. There's no way he can lose...
Trump is not winning because he is a conservative or "honest"...He is winning because he is not a political whore...This is not your father's election...Even a commie would win if he were nominated...That shows what the American voter cares about in this election....Our controlled media is aghast that the public is no longer believing their BS............... :oyvey
As many times as he's toyed with running for POTUS in the past plus all of his appearances on fox for years does make him a political whore. His supporters just haven't realized it yet :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Dem4life
May 31 2016, 12:20 PM
Robert Stout
May 31 2016, 12:17 PM
Dem4life
May 31 2016, 11:51 AM
I'm happy for the gop. They finally got a real conservative. There's no way he can lose...
Trump is not winning because he is a conservative or "honest"...He is winning because he is not a political whore...This is not your father's election...Even a commie would win if he were nominated...That shows what the American voter cares about in this election....Our controlled media is aghast that the public is no longer believing their BS............... :oyvey
As many times as he's toyed with running for POTUS in the past plus all of his appearances on fox for years does make him a political whore. His supporters just haven't realized it yet :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
A political whore takes orders from their masters...Who is Trump's master ???...Is he trying to get rich off of Wall Street, big banks, and multinational corporations, or is he wealthy enough not to pander to their every whim ???....I suspect he is a Ross Perot, without the funny voice and big ears, but with the Republican nomination........................... :dunno:
Edited by Robert Stout, May 31 2016, 12:27 PM.
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Robert Stout
May 31 2016, 12:24 PM
Dem4life
May 31 2016, 12:20 PM
Robert Stout
May 31 2016, 12:17 PM

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As many times as he's toyed with running for POTUS in the past plus all of his appearances on fox for years does make him a political whore. His supporters just haven't realized it yet :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
A political whore takes orders from their masters...Who is Trump's master ???...Is he trying to get rich off of Wall Street, big banks, and multinational corporations, or is he wealthy enough not to pander to their every whim ???....I suspect he is a Ross Perot, without the funny voice and big ears, but with the Republican nomination........................... :dunno:
He recently admitted to following the republican party's orders about accepting donations :nana: :booboo: :nana:
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Dem4life
May 31 2016, 12:29 PM
Robert Stout
May 31 2016, 12:24 PM
Dem4life
May 31 2016, 12:20 PM

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A political whore takes orders from their masters...Who is Trump's master ???...Is he trying to get rich off of Wall Street, big banks, and multinational corporations, or is he wealthy enough not to pander to their every whim ???....I suspect he is a Ross Perot, without the funny voice and big ears, but with the Republican nomination........................... :dunno:
He recently admitted to following the republican party's orders about accepting donations :nana: :booboo: :nana:
Yes...Donations coming through the Party, not directly from special interests....Has Hillary reached her goal of $1 billion directly from special interests ???.......... :booboo:
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Robert Stout
May 31 2016, 12:37 PM
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May 31 2016, 12:29 PM
Robert Stout
May 31 2016, 12:24 PM

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He recently admitted to following the republican party's orders about accepting donations :nana: :booboo: :nana:
Yes...Donations coming through the Party, not directly from special interests....Has Hillary reached her goal of $1 billion directly from special interests ???.......... :booboo:
The reason he's following their orders is so he can get donations from special interests... :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Dem4life
May 31 2016, 12:40 PM
Robert Stout
May 31 2016, 12:37 PM
Dem4life
May 31 2016, 12:29 PM

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Yes...Donations coming through the Party, not directly from special interests....Has Hillary reached her goal of $1 billion directly from special interests ???.......... :booboo:
The reason he's following their orders is so he can get donations from special interests... :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Why do you think it is so hilarious that Trump has more integrity than Hillary ???...Some may see that as a sign of hebephrenic schizophrenia................ :dunno:
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Robert Stout
May 31 2016, 01:02 PM
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May 31 2016, 12:40 PM
Robert Stout
May 31 2016, 12:37 PM

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The reason he's following their orders is so he can get donations from special interests... :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Why do you think it is so hilarious that Trump has more integrity than Hillary ???...Some may see that as a sign of hebephrenic schizophrenia................ :dunno:
Only someone suckling at his teet would believe he has integrity. You're talking about someone who boasted he could shoot someone and not lose any voters. That's the guy the gop has as their candidate...
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May 31 2016, 12:40 PM
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May 31 2016, 12:37 PM
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Yes...Donations coming through the Party, not directly from special interests....Has Hillary reached her goal of $1 billion directly from special interests ???.......... :booboo:
The reason he's following their orders is so he can get donations from special interests... :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Just like Slick Willy's Bottom B!tch.... :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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May 30 2016, 10:25 PM
If anyone, Trump should be on top of the honesty list. The man tells it like it is.
:rotflmao:

You're blind!
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Coast2coast
May 31 2016, 05:11 PM
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May 30 2016, 10:25 PM
If anyone, Trump should be on top of the honesty list. The man tells it like it is.
:rotflmao:

You're blind!
You are under the establishment's control. :guitar:
Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind.
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Two a.m.
May 30 2016, 05:23 PM


The least accurate as ranked by percentage of mostly false, false and pants on fire statements:

1) Ben Carson 82
2) Donald Trump76
3) Ted Cruz 64
4) Carly Fiorina55
Rick Santorum55
6) Mike Huckabee51
7) Rick Perry 47


Meanwhile, those with the biggest "pants on fire" percentage - the ones who most commonly said the craziest untrue stuff...

1) Donald Trump19
2) Ben Carson 14
3) Rick Perry 11
4) Mike Huckabee10
5) Carly Fiorina9
6) Chris Christie8
Rick Santorum8
8) Ted Cruz 7
Scott Walker7



Notice the biggest liars are the ones that flaunt their religion the most.
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ringotuna
May 31 2016, 05:01 PM
Dem4life
May 31 2016, 12:40 PM
Robert Stout
May 31 2016, 12:37 PM

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The reason he's following their orders is so he can get donations from special interests... :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Just like Slick Willy's Bottom B!tch.... :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
There's not much difference between you and AI when he was going around repeatedly calling others "cucked." Methinks you're projecting like him, little feller...
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May 31 2016, 06:02 PM
ringotuna
May 31 2016, 05:01 PM
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May 31 2016, 12:40 PM

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Just like Slick Willy's Bottom B!tch.... :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
There's not much difference between you and AI when he was going around repeatedly calling others "cucked." Methinks you're projecting like him, little feller...


So my lil friend, with your repeated use of the term "Donald Little Hands" by your logic we can conclude you're projecting what?....

:rotflmao:

AI made it personal amongst board members but he wasn't chicken sh!t enough to drag someone's mother into it.

Dem4life
May 13 2016, 10:08 AM
I see someone is still calling Hillary a bottom bitch. Poor Rot must have heard that a lot growing up...

http://unitedstates.com/topic/8431408/1/#new
Dem4life
May 5 2016, 02:51 PM
Do you refer to your wife and mommy as "bottom bitch's?" You must have heard this a lot growing up is all I can figure...
http://unitedstates.com/topic/8420950/3/#new
Edited by ringotuna, Jun 1 2016, 03:15 AM.
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...and lil demmie runs away...again. :rotflmao:
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May 30 2016, 05:23 PM
I compiled a list from Politifact of every candidate who had at least a handful of statements rated...(sorry George Pataki)...

Anyway of those ranked, from most accurate to least accurate by the percentage of true or mostly true statements.

1) Jim Webb 80
2) John Kasich 53
3) Bernie Sanders52
4) Hillary Clinton50
Bobby Jindal50
6) Jeb Bush 48
7) Rand Paul 46
8) Lincoln Chaffee39
Chris Christie39
Lindsey Graham 39
11) Marco Rubio36
12) Scott Walker35
13) Rick Perry 29
14) Carly Fiorina28
15) Mike Huckabee27
16) Ted Cruz 24
17) Martin O’Malley 22
Rick Santorum22
19) Donald Trump8
20) Ben Carson7


Technically, while Webb gets the honors here for truthfulness, both he and Jindal had few ranked statements so it is probably really Kasich who is most truthful followed by Sanders and then Clinton.

The least accurate as ranked by percentage of mostly false, false and pants on fire statements:

1) Ben Carson 82
2) Donald Trump76
3) Ted Cruz 64
4) Carly Fiorina55
Rick Santorum55
6) Mike Huckabee51
7) Rick Perry 47
8) Scott Walker46
9) Lincoln Chaffee45
10) Marco Rubio42
11) Rand Paul 36
12) Chris Christie35
13) Lindsey Graham 34
14) John Kasich32
15) Jeb Bush 31
16) Bernie Sanders30
17) Hillary Clinton28
18) Martin O’Malley 23
19) Bobby Jindal10
Jim Webb 10

Meanwhile, those with the biggest "pants on fire" percentage - the ones who most commonly said the craziest untrue stuff...

1) Donald Trump19
2) Ben Carson 14
3) Rick Perry 11
4) Mike Huckabee10
5) Carly Fiorina9
6) Chris Christie8
Rick Santorum8
8) Ted Cruz 7
Scott Walker7
10) Rand Paul 6
11) John Kasich5
12) Jeb Bush 3
Marco Rubio3
14) Hillary Clinton1
15) Lincoln Chaffee0
Lindsey Graham 0
Bobby Jindal0
Martin O’Malley 0
Bernie Sanders0
Jim Webb 0
How is it that Hillary Clinton is getting painted as the most dishonest person on the planet?
That's what stands out to me from this list.


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This whole exercise in quantifying who's the 'worser' liar by count is pretty pointless.

Lil Johnny is caught telling 20 lies...Lil Suzie is caught telling 10. Which one is trustworthy? :oyvey
Edited by ringotuna, Jun 2 2016, 06:34 AM.
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