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Historically speaking, which US President committed the worst human rights violations?
Topic Started: Jun 5 2016, 10:05 AM (1,308 Views)
dcbl
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I am thinking that it is a toss-up between FDR with his internment of Japanese Americans, Andrew Jackson and his Trail of Tears (although Jackson wasn't president at the time) and Harry Truman's decision to murder hundreds of thousands of people with a nuclear bomb :sarcasmalert: .

Insofar as suppression of liberties and subversion of the Constitution, it is hard to argue with George Bush's Patriot Act

But Abe Lincoln for suspending the writ of habeas corpus (among other things) and Barack Obama's executive orders certainly deserve honorable mention.

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Lincoln's policies led to the death of 600,000 Americans. Is it even close? Maybe Woodrow Wilson.
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jake58

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Jun 5 2016, 10:08 AM
Lincoln's policies led to the death of 600,000 Americans. Is it even close? Maybe Woodrow Wilson.
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You'd hardly expect me to be impartial, but it's Jackson, his policy, and the Indian Removal Act systemically eliminated from the US Landscape well over half a dozen tribes in the southeast alone. We even won against the Government, in Cherokee vs Georgia, All the way up to the USSC, Jackson's infamous response. "They have made their ruling, now let them enforce it"

My people were forced at gunpoint in winter mind you from their homes, businesses, from lands we had called home for 3000 years, and marched clear across 3 states, along the way, 4000 Cherokee died, starvation mostly because the Army didn't provision us properly, but also to elements and the march itself.

And you know what is truly ironic....when the Civil War broke out barely 3 decades later, we fell for the crap again, as a Nation, the tribe sided with the Confederacy, although it was hotly debated to the wisdom of that plan. The Confederacy promised the State of Tennessee would be returned to us. The smart ones figured we couldn't trust the CSA any more then we could the Union.
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Depends entirely on perspective I would presume (as AI has shown us). It could be FDR, Lincoln, Truman, Teddy Roosevelt, George Washington...etc. They all has their bad moments (or two).
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Tsalagi
Jun 5 2016, 02:00 PM
We even won against the Government, in Cherokee vs Georgia, All the way up to the USSC, Jackson's infamous response. "They have made their ruling, now let them enforce it"
so there is precedent for the way Obama is running the executive branch

interesting...
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Jun 5 2016, 03:44 PM
Tsalagi
Jun 5 2016, 02:00 PM
We even won against the Government, in Cherokee vs Georgia, All the way up to the USSC, Jackson's infamous response. "They have made their ruling, now let them enforce it"
so there is precedent for the way Obama is running the executive branch

interesting...
Actually, it was Congress that of course voted for the Indian Removal Act, Jackson was merely responding to the USSC's attempt to find the Law UnConstitutional.
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Tsalagi
Jun 5 2016, 06:22 PM
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Jun 5 2016, 03:44 PM
Tsalagi
Jun 5 2016, 02:00 PM
We even won against the Government, in Cherokee vs Georgia, All the way up to the USSC, Jackson's infamous response. "They have made their ruling, now let them enforce it"
so there is precedent for the way Obama is running the executive branch

interesting...
Actually, it was Congress that of course voted for the Indian Removal Act, Jackson was merely responding to the USSC's attempt to find the Law UnConstitutional.
and he wasn't president yet either - right?
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Jun 5 2016, 06:29 PM
Tsalagi
Jun 5 2016, 06:22 PM
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Jun 5 2016, 03:44 PM

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Actually, it was Congress that of course voted for the Indian Removal Act, Jackson was merely responding to the USSC's attempt to find the Law UnConstitutional.
and he wasn't president yet either - right?
He was President from 1827 to 1837, and was an active supporter and signer to that bill into becoming Law. The bill was signed in 1832
Edited by Tsalagi, Jun 5 2016, 08:28 PM.
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Jackson no question there.
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Obama. Definitely.
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