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6 people died and 25 people wounded, another violent weekend in Chicago
Topic Started: Jun 5 2016, 03:55 PM (1,626 Views)
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When was the last time Obama stressed the need to stop "gang culturte" in the black community? Anybody?
"Be polite, be friendly. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet." Gen Mattis
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Jun 7 2016, 05:30 PM
nNeo
Jun 7 2016, 04:47 PM
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Jun 7 2016, 04:11 PM
Start addressing the issues instead of blaming guns for just about everything.
I have not blamed guns at all. Please be specific as to how you would solve this problem, using policies that would be allowed by the US Constitution, and can be shown by example to have worked in similar large cities.
This has nothing to do with policies. Japanese and S. Koreans do not rely on government policies to keep them safe while walking on the street.

Ask yourself why aren't Japanese and S. Koreans running around killing themselves whereas Blacks and Hispanics are killing their own. No amount of government intervention can stop this madness.
It's the culture. Let's start addressing that.
You do know the Chinese Triads and Japanese Yakuza have been killing people in their homelands for centuries right?
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I_feel_the_trump
Jun 8 2016, 09:54 AM
When was the last time Obama stressed the need to stop "gang culturte" in the black community? Anybody?
If I find a speech about it, will you STFU about it?
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Jun 7 2016, 04:47 PM

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This has nothing to do with policies. Japanese and S. Koreans do not rely on government policies to keep them safe while walking on the street.

Ask yourself why aren't Japanese and S. Koreans running around killing themselves whereas Blacks and Hispanics are killing their own. No amount of government intervention can stop this madness.
It's the culture. Let's start addressing that.
You do know the Chinese Triads and Japanese Yakuza have been killing people in their homelands for centuries right?
Digging deep now eh? Are we using actions committed during the primitive times and compare it with today?

One group has moved forward along with technological advances. The other are moving backward or refused to move and stuck in this same mentality.

There are still mob related killings in Japan and China today but nowhere near in comparison to Chicago alone.

Do you deny that?
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You do know the Chinese Triads and Japanese Yakuza have been killing people in their homelands for centuries right?
Digging deep now eh? Are we using actions committed during the primitive times and compare it with today?

One group has moved forward along with technological advances. The other are moving backward or refused to move and stuck in this same mentality.

There are still mob related killings in Japan and China today but nowhere near in comparison to Chicago alone.

Do you deny that?
But that wasn't your previous point, you said they don't have a problem killing each other, those were your words..I correctly pointed out to you that both societies have had long-standing criminal enterprises that have never stopped killing their own people. One could make the argument that the Triads and Yakuza are two of the oldest known criminal enterprises still in existence.

And the Japanese do really on their govenment's policies to keep them safe, they have an extraordinarily high conviction rate, mostly because it's incumbent on the accused to prove themselves innocent and other legal loopholes they have that we don't.
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nNeo
Jun 7 2016, 08:16 PM
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Jun 7 2016, 07:11 PM
Do you think the non-gang members of Chicago should be allowed to carry a weapon for protection?
Yes. I said exactly that above. However that does not deter gang members from shooting at each other, and the police.
I don't really care if gang member shoot each other. Good.
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nNeo
Jun 7 2016, 08:18 PM
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Jun 7 2016, 07:29 PM
That's a conversation the races need to have among themselves.
So you have no solution. Got it, thanks.
Why do you feel the need to fix everything?
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Jun 8 2016, 11:17 AM
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That's a conversation the races need to have among themselves.
So you have no solution. Got it, thanks.
Why do you feel the need to fix everything?
but it's better to bitch about it?
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Why do you feel the need to fix everything?
but it's better to bitch about it?
Why complain about gang members killing each other?
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Jun 8 2016, 10:19 AM
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Jun 8 2016, 09:54 AM
When was the last time Obama stressed the need to stop "gang culturte" in the black community? Anybody?
If I find a speech about it, will you STFU about it?
Don't world, it's just WORLD CLASS levels of violence in an American city that this President refuses to address.

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Jun 8 2016, 10:19 AM
I_feel_the_trump
Jun 8 2016, 09:54 AM
When was the last time Obama stressed the need to stop "gang culturte" in the black community? Anybody?
If I find a speech about it, will you STFU about it?
Don't world, it's just WORLD CLASS levels of violence in an American city that this President refuses to address.

Again, if I find a speech about it will you STFU about.
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Jun 7 2016, 05:37 PM
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It's the culture. Let's start addressing that.
Fabulous. Addressing it how?
That's a conversation the races need to have among themselves. I have my two cents but then again, I am sure the racist label will get slapped on me after the first sentence.
Yep.. Racists generally out themselves as soon as they open their pie holes.


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Quoting limited to 3 levels deepWhy do you feel the need to fix everything?
but it's better to bitch about it?
Why complain about gang members killing each other?
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Digging deep now eh? Are we using actions committed during the primitive times and compare it with today?

One group has moved forward along with technological advances. The other are moving backward or refused to move and stuck in this same mentality.

There are still mob related killings in Japan and China today but nowhere near in comparison to Chicago alone.

Do you deny that?
But that wasn't your previous point, you said they don't have a problem killing each other, those were your words..I correctly pointed out to you that both societies have had long-standing criminal enterprises that have never stopped killing their own people. One could make the argument that the Triads and Yakuza are two of the oldest known criminal enterprises still in existence.

And the Japanese do really on their govenment's policies to keep them safe, they have an extraordinarily high conviction rate, mostly because it's incumbent on the accused to prove themselves innocent and other legal loopholes they have that we don't.
You're half right. Many Japanese are honest. When caught, they usually admit fault because of public shaming or simply against their culture to lie, especially when facing elders like parents or grand parents. Too bad, this country is light years behind.
Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind.
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I_feel_the_trump
Jun 8 2016, 02:06 PM
it's just WORLD CLASS levels of violence in an American city that this President refuses to address.

Actually it's just above a mid-range level of violence for a large city, which is why I asked Drudge for specifics. Chicago is unremarkable, yet specifically the topic of threads over and over. And why "this president?" It's a city and state issue, not national, and the homicide rate was higher for decades than it is now. Not saying it's great, but there's no reason to keep starting these threads.
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Jun 8 2016, 12:03 PM
Why complain about gang members killing each other?
They hit bystanders.
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Jun 8 2016, 07:17 PM
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Jun 8 2016, 12:03 PM
Why complain about gang members killing each other?
They hit bystanders.
The bystanders enabled the gang violence by empowering a progressive democratic machine to rule Chicago.
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Why complain about gang members killing each other?
They hit bystanders.
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Jun 7 2016, 12:10 PM
Chicago is one of the largest cities in the world, and one of the most densely populated in America. It's crime rate isn't unusual. It's not in the worst 20 US cities for violent crime. There are areas with gang problems, which account for most of the troubles. Actionable suggestions to fix that seem far harder to find than blame from afar.
nNeo... Chicago is not one of the most populous cities or one of the biggest. Population wise it is not huge. as of 2010 the population stood at around 2,695,598 people in an area of 227sq Miles at 11,874 people per square Mile. New York by comparison has 8.6 million people. Last year Chicago had 507 homicides, NYC had 339. Chicago averaged 15.9 murders per 100,000 people while NYC was 3.9 per 100,000 . Per Square Mile NYC has 28,000 people per sq Mile in an area of 304 sq Miles.

Roughly put the Chicago Murder rate is nearly 4x that of NYC. If NYC had the same murder rate that would amount to almost 1500 murders!

If Chicago had NYC's it would Translate to 105 murders.

That would be nearly an 80% Reduction!!

NY is denser, has a larger area and 3.5 times the population. yet it's murder rate is minuscule.

NY has Gang problems too. And Drug problems.

The Solution?? NYC Style policing in Chicago. COPSTAT and other statistical based response systems are a good start. Also, flood problem areas with massive police presence. Chicago has 11000 officers... roughly on par with NYC at 32000. So the Manpower is the same....

The problem is Management.

Corruption, mismanagement and a city council that is too afraid to take back the streets because it would be perceived as racist keep Chicago a murder capital.

The vast overwhelming majority of victims are black youths killed by other black youths.

When will outrage come from the African American community about this slaughter of young black males by other Young black males? It won't. It is easier to claim to be a victim of white policemen than to accept the fact that this problem is almost 100% the problems that started in Chicago in 1967.

Chicago is on pace for 600 murders this year...

That is a crime. That is a sin

That is a fact











Edited by voted4reagan, Jun 8 2016, 08:07 PM.
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Neo will still ask watcha gonna do?
Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind.
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