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...Democrats Down 7 Million Votes
Topic Started: Jun 8 2016, 11:37 PM (752 Views)
CautionaryTales
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ringotuna
Jun 9 2016, 07:14 AM
CautionaryTales
Jun 9 2016, 07:11 AM
ringotuna
Jun 9 2016, 07:09 AM

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On election matters it counts. Unlike the opinions of Esto.
I think your assertion is borne from the stupid cliché "If you don't vote, don't complain."
The better way to say that is... If you refuse to vote, you don't care enough to count.
It's his choice, I have no problem with the choice he has made.
I'm glad his opinion is nothing more than some empty words on a complaint forum.

He's allowed to complain all he wants. But since his complaints are nothing more than that they mean nothing.

It's ironic that his whole schtick spins around empty complaining about things while he can't bring himself to do anything about anything.

Sitting in Moms basement suits him.


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Jun 9 2016, 06:06 AM
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You don't vote.
What you think means nothing.
Me thinks your long winded replies and consistent butthurt proves you wrong. :)
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Jun 9 2016, 07:40 AM
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Jun 9 2016, 07:14 AM
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Jun 9 2016, 07:11 AM

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I think your assertion is borne from the stupid cliché "If you don't vote, don't complain."
The better way to say that is... If you refuse to vote, you don't care enough to count.
It's his choice, I have no problem with the choice he has made.
I'm glad his opinion is nothing more than some empty words on a complaint forum.

He's allowed to complain all he wants. But since his complaints are nothing more than that they mean nothing.

It's ironic that his whole schtick spins around empty complaining about things while he can't bring himself to do anything about anything.

Sitting in Moms basement suits him.
But its a fallacy.

As George Carlin said - if you vote you have no right to complain. You live and are complicit in your decision.

Myself on the other hand ....
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The "Decider" has decided.

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Jun 9 2016, 12:26 PM
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You don't vote.
What you think means nothing.
Me thinks your long winded replies and consistent butthurt proves you wrong. :)
Nah. I'm not the one whose butt is aflame these days.
That's you.


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ringotuna
Jun 9 2016, 06:43 AM
It's pretty ignorant to assert that the value of ones opinion hinges on whether they vote or not.
Indeed, but that apparently appears to be the opinion of some Clinton supporters. *shrugs* It's all passive aggressive nonsense frankly.
"...a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is detrimental...having lost the will..to demand...good..." - Rachel Carson
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CautionaryTales
Jun 9 2016, 06:54 AM
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Jun 9 2016, 06:24 AM
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Jun 9 2016, 06:06 AM

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Yet the ones that do vote might as well admit the don't think....
I think friend, I just don't think the same as you.
I see nothing wrong with that.
I question whether you think dear CT, because you've said a lot of silly, illogical things. But hey, at least you're not Kato silly right? :cheers:
"...a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is detrimental...having lost the will..to demand...good..." - Rachel Carson
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ringotuna
Jun 9 2016, 07:00 AM
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Jun 9 2016, 06:27 AM
Oh and don't worry, Bernie will apologize profusely for holding views contrary to the queen and all will be forgiven. Then miraculously Clinton will waive her magic wand -oh sorry that's the key to an email server - and Sander's will kneel to her and all will be well in dem land. <br /><br />Or well some in the Clinton camp would have us believe.... :rollseyes:
Ole Bernie fought the good fight against the DNC/Clinton juggernaut. Politics aside I gotta admire the man for his persistence.
Indeed :cheers: That would be the case in my view regardless of who it was.
"...a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is detrimental...having lost the will..to demand...good..." - Rachel Carson
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Jun 9 2016, 03:21 PM
ringotuna
Jun 9 2016, 07:00 AM
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Oh and don't worry, Bernie will apologize profusely for holding views contrary to the queen and all will be forgiven. Then miraculously Clinton will waive her magic wand -oh sorry that's the key to an email server - and Sander's will kneel to her and all will be well in dem land. <br /><br />Or well some in the Clinton camp would have us believe.... :rollseyes:
Ole Bernie fought the good fight against the DNC/Clinton juggernaut. Politics aside I gotta admire the man for his persistence.
Indeed :cheers: That would be the case in my view regardless of who it was.
I have agreed that Sanders has every right to make his fight. I said early on that I would vote for him if he proved to be able to win the primary battle.
He did a fine job as a candidate and has brought a number of new voters that will be looking for the candidate that best aligns with their interests.
If they are honest with themselves it won't be Trump.

Sanders is on the cusp of endorsing SoS Clinton. His followers should consider his grace and do their own right thing as is Bernie.


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Jun 9 2016, 03:25 PM
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Jun 9 2016, 03:21 PM
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Jun 9 2016, 07:00 AM

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Indeed :cheers: That would be the case in my view regardless of who it was.
I have agreed that Sanders has every right to make his fight. I said early on that I would vote for him if he proved to be able to win the primary battle.
He did a fine job as a candidate and has brought a number of new voters that will be looking for the candidate that best aligns with their interests.
If they are honest with themselves it won't be Trump.

Sanders is on the cusp of endorsing SoS Clinton. His followers should consider his grace and do their own right thing as is Bernie.
The right thing is a personal ethical/moral decision, not yours nor Sanders. Or are you again trying to passively aggressively insist we peons give our votes to the Dems?

Our vote, our choice there CT. We are no longer the robots in the Democratic Party. Maybe you'll wake up one day and realize that the party no longer serves any other interests but their own.
"...a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is detrimental...having lost the will..to demand...good..." - Rachel Carson
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Jun 9 2016, 03:33 PM
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Jun 9 2016, 03:25 PM
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Jun 9 2016, 03:21 PM

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I have agreed that Sanders has every right to make his fight. I said early on that I would vote for him if he proved to be able to win the primary battle.
He did a fine job as a candidate and has brought a number of new voters that will be looking for the candidate that best aligns with their interests.
If they are honest with themselves it won't be Trump.

Sanders is on the cusp of endorsing SoS Clinton. His followers should consider his grace and do their own right thing as is Bernie.
The right thing is a personal ethical/moral decision, not yours nor Sanders. Or are you again trying to passively aggressively insist we peons give our votes to the Dems?

Our vote, our choice there CT. We are no longer the robots in the Democratic Party. Maybe you'll wake up one day and realize that the party no longer serves any other interests but their own.
Party over principle is the mandate among both the left and right establishment whores.
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Jun 9 2016, 03:33 PM
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Jun 9 2016, 03:25 PM
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Jun 9 2016, 03:21 PM

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I have agreed that Sanders has every right to make his fight. I said early on that I would vote for him if he proved to be able to win the primary battle.
He did a fine job as a candidate and has brought a number of new voters that will be looking for the candidate that best aligns with their interests.
If they are honest with themselves it won't be Trump.

Sanders is on the cusp of endorsing SoS Clinton. His followers should consider his grace and do their own right thing as is Bernie.
The right thing is a personal ethical/moral decision, not yours nor Sanders. Or are you again trying to passively aggressively insist we peons give our votes to the Dems?

Our vote, our choice there CT. We are no longer the robots in the Democratic Party. Maybe you'll wake up one day and realize that the party no longer serves any other interests but their own.
I think it is morally sound to do whatever I can legally do to keep Trump from the White House.
That's my decision and my choice.
Just being upfront about that.

We don't share the same view here on this. We won't share the same view either, it seems.


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You don't vote.
What you think means nothing.
It means something to me . . .
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Jun 9 2016, 07:05 PM
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Jun 9 2016, 03:33 PM
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The right thing is a personal ethical/moral decision, not yours nor Sanders. Or are you again trying to passively aggressively insist we peons give our votes to the Dems?

Our vote, our choice there CT. We are no longer the robots in the Democratic Party. Maybe you'll wake up one day and realize that the party no longer serves any other interests but their own.
Party over principle is the mandate among both the left and right establishment whores.
Might like to wear cotton, might like to wear silk
Might like to drink whiskey, might like to drink milk
You might like to eat caviar, you might like to eat bread
You may be sleeping on the floor, sleeping in a king-sized bed.

But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
It may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.

You may call me Terry, you may call me Jimmy
You may call me Bobby, you may call me Zimmy
You may call me R.J., you may call me Ray
You may call me anything but no matter what you say.

You're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.



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Jun 9 2016, 07:12 PM
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You don't vote.
What you think means nothing.
It means something to me . . .
Ok.
That counts as exactly nothing when they total up the vote count.


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Jun 9 2016, 07:16 PM
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It means something to me . . .
Ok.
That counts as exactly nothing when they total up the vote count.
If voting changed anything, they would outlaw it. That's why the democratic party has super delegates after all.
Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary.
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Jun 9 2016, 07:05 PM
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Jun 9 2016, 03:33 PM
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The right thing is a personal ethical/moral decision, not yours nor Sanders. Or are you again trying to passively aggressively insist we peons give our votes to the Dems?

Our vote, our choice there CT. We are no longer the robots in the Democratic Party. Maybe you'll wake up one day and realize that the party no longer serves any other interests but their own.
Party over principle is the mandate among both the left and right establishment whores.
Mm it all comes down to self interest. Basic....Law of humanity, if you will. People will serve their own interests. Heck, even so called selfless charity can lead to a release of a chemical in our brains. Sad, but true. I don't see how voting for a party which has repeatedly looked out for its own interests could be trusted. I mean, call me silly ringo, but...fool me once, shame on me...fool me twice...

Right? :cheers:

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Jun 9 2016, 07:11 PM
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Jun 9 2016, 03:33 PM
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Jun 9 2016, 03:25 PM

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The right thing is a personal ethical/moral decision, not yours nor Sanders. Or are you again trying to passively aggressively insist we peons give our votes to the Dems?

Our vote, our choice there CT. We are no longer the robots in the Democratic Party. Maybe you'll wake up one day and realize that the party no longer serves any other interests but their own.
I think it is morally sound to do whatever I can legally do to keep Trump from the White House.
That's my decision and my choice.
Just being upfront about that.

We don't share the same view here on this. We won't share the same view either, it seems.
Nothing wrong with being upfront and honest about it. :cheers: And I'm sure we share many similarities, we just don't agree with how to achieve them, as well as the means (ie, what candidate is the best tool/means to achieve said desires). That's all. You're still wrong of course, but as far as I'm concerned we're still good. :cheers: ;)
"...a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is detrimental...having lost the will..to demand...good..." - Rachel Carson
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Jun 9 2016, 07:22 PM
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Ok.
That counts as exactly nothing when they total up the vote count.
If voting changed anything, they would outlaw it. That's why the democratic party has super delegates after all.
If they had no Superdelegates, Clinton still wins the Democratic nomination.


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