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This is why the left is regressive
Topic Started: Jun 12 2016, 05:04 PM (2,266 Views)
Mr. Tik
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Katoblue
Jun 12 2016, 08:25 PM
radical Islamic terrorist Sympathizer insane Hussein.. blames Americans and guns.. and not Radical Islam..

um um um insane Hussein is truly one sick and demented left wing nut man..
:rollseyes:



Obama: ‘We’ are to blame, not Islamic terrorism, for massacre


http://nypost.com/2016/06/12/obama-says-we-are-to-blame-not-islamic-terrorism-for-orlando-massacre/
Every day, we hear from Conservative Christians vile anti gay rhetoric

This very well could have been done by some rabid "family values" nut

We may have had one in Los Angeles

Authorities on Sunday were trying to determine the intentions of a Indiana man with a cache of weapons, ammunition and explosive-making materials in his car and apparent plans to attend the L.A. Pride festival in West Hollywood.

Santa Monica Police Chief Jacqueline Seabrooks said on Twitter that the suspect told one of her officers after he was arrested that he wanted “to harm Gay Pride event.” But she did not provide any details, and officials said they are still trying to sort out his motives.


http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-gay-pride-la-weapons-20160612-snap-story.html

b]White and Non Muslim
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Edited by Mr. Tik, Jun 12 2016, 10:58 PM.
You may be a conservative republican..if you are pro life until you get your mistress knocked up
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Jun 12 2016, 07:39 PM
estonianman
Jun 12 2016, 07:33 PM
Coast2coast
Jun 12 2016, 07:30 PM
What is the point to this topic?

Can the topic author put it in his words instead of just putting up a bunch of hate speech that I can find from plenty of non-Islamic and very American sources?

The point of the topic was to get your response.

Thank you.
So you have no point.

It shows.

Your responses are remarkably Pavlovian
That which can be asserted without evidence; can be dismissed without evidence- Christopher Hitchens
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Adolph Hipster
Jun 12 2016, 10:42 PM
estonianman
Jun 12 2016, 05:04 PM
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I emphatically disagree with the premise of this thread

There are 1.5 billion Muslims in world. That's more than three times the population of the USA
They are a diverse demographic ranging from the hyper violent Wahhabist/Salifi/Jihadist types to the peaceful pacifism of Sufi.

I suspect most are just everyday folk like us trying to get over, living, having families and all that everyday life stuff.
The left sees this better than bomb happy conservatives and trumptards.


But really,,the "left" may have been right all along
The left opposed the Iraq war
If not for the Iraq war and its consequences..Isis would not exist.

Really..after 9-11..how many Iraqi civilians died as a result..how many new terrorist were created?

And this massacre could have been very well done by one of our own religious nut types
I would be interested to see what the LA dudes background was..white, from Indiana?
Good bet he is one of these "family values" critters

And Orlando is big on homo hatred

http://www.orlandoweekly.com/orlando/waves-of-homophobia-are-crashing-through-the-florida-house-in-an-effort-to-guise-bigotry-as-religious-freedom/Content?oid=2379997

Perhaps the Christian anti gay woo woo help validate this assholes "mission"


I disagree my friend - you have an entire religion that is like the westboro baptist church, only they market themselves differently.

Orlando might be homo hatred, but 10 of their counties do not flog you or stone you to death if you are a homosexual.

Its okay to criticize - you cannot be racist towards a religion - despite what the left has told you.
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Edited by Mr. Tik, Jun 13 2016, 01:08 PM.
You may be a conservative republican..if you are pro life until you get your mistress knocked up
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You may be a conservative republican..if you are pro life until you get your mistress knocked up
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Was this thread started by Esto?
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Jun 13 2016, 01:34 PM
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The difference of course being that owning a gun isn't a religion.

A religion that has a tendency to be racist, sexist and incite violence.

Edited by estonianman, Jun 13 2016, 01:48 PM.
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Since guns have no feeling, I have to ask what the gun owner feelings are...cause they can be the answer to how things go.
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Jun 13 2016, 01:47 PM
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Jun 13 2016, 01:34 PM
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The difference of course being that owning a gun isn't a religion.

A religion that has a tendency to be racist, sexist and incite violence.

And yet, it is a minority that commits these vile acts
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How many times since 9/11 – when nearly 3,000 Americans were killed by radical Muslims – have we asked each other where the moderate Muslims are? Where are the imams denouncing the violence committed in the name of Islam? We asked the same after the attacks on the Little Rock recruiting office, after Fort Hood, after the Islamic State group beheadings of Americans overseas. After the Boston Marathon bombing and Mumbai and Madrid and London and Paris. After San Bernardino.

You'd never know it from the media, but Muslim leaders have denounced terrorism committed in the name of Islam over and over again. Apparently covering terrorist attacks drives more ratings than reporting on press conferences afterward – so the media doesn't bother. It's not surprising that many Americans have come to believe that perhaps there just are no moderate Muslims.


http://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2015-12-18/yes-moderate-muslims-do-denounce-terrorism-though-the-media-ignores-it
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Jun 13 2016, 02:14 PM
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Jun 13 2016, 01:47 PM
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The difference of course being that owning a gun isn't a religion.

A religion that has a tendency to be racist, sexist and incite violence.

And yet, it is a minority that commits these vile acts
In both cases absolutely.

In the case of Muslims however - the minority is only amongst assimilated muslims.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/12/07/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/

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Jun 13 2016, 02:22 PM
Adolph Hipster
Jun 13 2016, 02:14 PM
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Jun 13 2016, 01:47 PM

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And yet, it is a minority that commits these vile acts
In both cases absolutely.

In the case of Muslims however - the minority is only amongst assimilated muslims.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/12/07/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/

What's your definition of an "Assimilated Muslim"?

Btw, interesting link. (No sarcasm)
Edited by CautionaryTales, Jun 13 2016, 03:25 PM.


Have you paid your internet taxes?
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Jun 13 2016, 03:23 PM
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Jun 13 2016, 02:22 PM
Adolph Hipster
Jun 13 2016, 02:14 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepPosted ImageAnd yet, it is a minority that commits these vile acts
In both cases absolutely.

In the case of Muslims however - the minority is only amongst assimilated muslims.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/12/07/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/

What's your definition of an "Assimilated Muslim"?
A Muslim that has a drink - for starters.



Edited by estonianman, Jun 13 2016, 03:30 PM.
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Stand by while we hear a major made up definition.
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edro14
Jun 13 2016, 03:25 PM
Stand by while we hear a major made up definition.
Hey Edro - when are you going to stop sitting on the sidelines and become a worthwhile contributor?
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Jun 13 2016, 03:25 PM
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Jun 13 2016, 03:23 PM
estonianman
Jun 13 2016, 02:22 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepPosted ImageAnd yet, it is a minority that commits these vile actshttp://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/12/07/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/

What's your definition of an "Assimilated Muslim"?
A Muslim that has a drink - for starters.



So... Unassimilated Muslims are not law abiding then?
The non-drinkers?


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Jun 13 2016, 03:33 PM
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Jun 13 2016, 03:25 PM
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Jun 13 2016, 03:23 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepPosted ImageAnd yet, it is a minority that commits these vile actshttp://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/12/07/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/
A Muslim that has a drink - for starters.



So... Unassimilated Muslims are not law abiding then?
The non-drinkers?

I would say the fundamental requirement is accepting western classical liberalism which has to happen with Muslim because the cultures they are coming from are in direct conflict with it.

A pocket of isolated Swedes in Minneapolis isn't a problem - a pocket of Somalis that taunt rape threats and incite violence is.

The patriarchy (for example) is common and legislated in the middle east. In western democracies it is rejected because it is in direct conflict with our culture - that is classical liberalism.
Edited by estonianman, Jun 13 2016, 03:44 PM.
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Tell me Esto, what about the white folks who do not accept the notions of acceptable behavior? Do they get tossed out as well? What about other religions which do not conform? Do you hold the same view for any and all other religions, ethnic groups, cultures, individuals, etc. that may hold 'regressive' views? Yes or no, no dancing around.

"...a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is detrimental...having lost the will..to demand...good..." - Rachel Carson
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Adolph Hipster
Jun 13 2016, 02:14 PM
estonianman
Jun 13 2016, 01:47 PM
Adolph Hipster
Jun 13 2016, 01:34 PM
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The difference of course being that owning a gun isn't a religion.

A religion that has a tendency to be racist, sexist and incite violence.

And yet, it is a minority that commits these vile acts
Like most people, Muslims are averse to dying for a cause and call those who do---heroes.............. :dunno:
Jesus can raise the dead, but he can't fix stupid
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