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What are you prepared to do against Muslims; After you've laid blame:your next step
Topic Started: Jun 12 2016, 09:29 PM (2,863 Views)
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Unfortunately your only option is authoritarian - full deportation.

Unless the left can quit encouraging race wars. Integration and assimilation is only possible with decreased levels of immigration - not the current level.
Ok, so is that what you'd want a President Trump to do then.
This is a Hiroshima moment - in that the only recourse is drastic. What do I want Trump to do? Well at the very least defend the nation from attack.

Muslim culture does not integrate or assimilate. yes there are rational 2nd generation muslims that drink, went to university etc. But the majority of refugees have 85 IQ and have no moral compass, very susceptible to radical indoctrination.

If the west wants to preserve its culture - serious actions will have to be taken.

Parts of europe are already gone.
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I never said I supported it dummy.

Read his question, then read my post.
So you believe that joining hands and sing kumbaya together will make it all better.
Like I said above - if the west wants to preserve its culture serious actions will have to be taken.

This is a cultural issue. I think rejecting a radical religion is a rational position, no? I cherish equality and safety - for some reason the majority of first generation Muslim immigrants don't.
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Ban assault rifles and especially their ammunition
Yeah - because ISIS complies with US gun regulations.

This is why left is sinking.
"From 2002 to 2014, 85 percent of people killed by terrorists in the U.S. were killed using guns, according to our analysis," FiveThirtyEight's Carl Bialik writes. "Every terrorist attack in the U.S. last year in which someone other than the perpetrator was killed involved guns."

This is not especially surprising, Bialik explains, because guns are the easiest deadly weapon to acquire in the United States. "Arie Perliger, director of terrorism studies at the U.S. Military Academy, said that U.S. terrorists are turning to guns because since Sept. 11, the federal government has monitored the use of explosives and the trade of materials that can be turned into explosives," he writes.


Here’s a simpler way of putting Perliger’s point: Terrorists are not complete and total idiots. America’s lax gun laws aren’t some kind of secret, and terrorist leaders have been urging would-be jihadists to take advantage of them for years.

For instance, in 2011, the late American al-Qaeda operative Adam Gadahn released a video telling American jihadists to purchase guns and use them:

In the West, you’ve got a lot at your disposal. Let’s take America for example. America is ......

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http://www.vox.com/2016/6/13/11912104/terrorism-gun-control
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Ban assault rifles and especially their ammunition
Yeah - because ISIS complies with US gun regulations.

This is why left is sinking.
"From 2002 to 2014, 85 percent of people killed by terrorists in the U.S. were killed using guns, according to our analysis," FiveThirtyEight's Carl Bialik writes. "Every terrorist attack in the U.S. last year in which someone other than the perpetrator was killed involved guns."

This is not especially surprising, Bialik explains, because guns are the easiest deadly weapon to acquire in the United States. "Arie Perliger, director of terrorism studies at the U.S. Military Academy, said that U.S. terrorists are turning to guns because since Sept. 11, the federal government has monitored the use of explosives and the trade of materials that can be turned into explosives," he writes.


Here’s a simpler way of putting Perliger’s point: Terrorists are not complete and total idiots. America’s lax gun laws aren’t some kind of secret, and terrorist leaders have been urging would-be jihadists to take advantage of them for years.

For instance, in 2011, the late American al-Qaeda operative Adam Gadahn released a video telling American jihadists to purchase guns and use them:

In the West, you’ve got a lot at your disposal. Let’s take America for example. America is


http://www.vox.com/2016/6/13/11912104/terrorism-gun-control
Muslims are committing even more violence in Europe - yes proximity is a factor, but the fact that you have a population that can't defend itself is as well.

Not only that - self-defense is discouraged. We had that incident in Brussels where a woman used pepper spray to deter a rapist and was charged with assault.

That's the slippery slope of government gun mandates. Disgusting.

You make a good point though - how do you discourage gun retailers from selling to Muslim radicals. I say full discrimination.
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Ok, so is that what you'd want a President Trump to do then.
This is a Hiroshima moment - in that the only recourse is drastic. What do I want Trump to do? Well at the very least defend the nation from attack.

Muslim culture does not integrate or assimilate. yes there are rational 2nd generation muslims that drink, went to university etc. But the majority of refugees have 85 IQ and have no moral compass, very susceptible to radical indoctrination.

If the west wants to preserve its culture - serious actions will have to be taken.

Parts of europe are already gone.
You want Trump to unleash a nuclear holocaust?
A Hiroshima moment?


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This is a Hiroshima moment - in that the only recourse is drastic. What do I want Trump to do? Well at the very least defend the nation from attack.

Muslim culture does not integrate or assimilate. yes there are rational 2nd generation muslims that drink, went to university etc. But the majority of refugees have 85 IQ and have no moral compass, very susceptible to radical indoctrination.

If the west wants to preserve its culture - serious actions will have to be taken.

Parts of europe are already gone.
You want Trump to unleash a nuclear holocaust?
A Hiroshima moment?
Not at all - why do I have to explain everything to you?

I said at this moment the only recourse would dramatic, as was the case to end WW2.

A full deportation and halt to all Muslim immigration would be dramatic, no?
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You want Trump to unleash a nuclear holocaust?
A Hiroshima moment?
Not at all - why do I have to explain everything to you?

I said at this moment the only recourse would dramatic, as was the case to end WW2.

A full deportation and halt to all Muslim immigration would be dramatic, no?
So it isn't a Hiroshima moment?
That was all just some more of your hyperbolic nonsensical rhetoric?
Ok.
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Not at all - why do I have to explain everything to you?

I said at this moment the only recourse would dramatic, as was the case to end WW2.

A full deportation and halt to all Muslim immigration would be dramatic, no?
So it isn't a Hiroshima moment?
That was all just some more of your hyperbolic rhetoric?
Ok.
wow. even simple concepts evade you.

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Jun 12 2016, 09:55 PM
It seems republican conservative Trump supporters would like to see re-educations camps, internments and deportations. They would like to see selective profiling and banning of weapon sales to all Muslims and all Arabs.

No, Trump supporters have no idea what needs to be done, but they believe the Donald when he tells them he can fix it (although he's apparently going to keep the details a secret if anybody asks).

It's not what he says that counts here, it just the confidence he exhibits when he says it, and the gullibility of the listener that counts.
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As for Muslims, they should be treated like any other religion. Arrest and prosecute their lawbreakers and leave the peaceful folks to live their lives
We can learn from Japan as starter.
True. We could adopt their gun laws.
Nope.
Guns has nothing to do with a safe society in Japan.

It's the culture that leftist like yourself refused to address because of pcness.
Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind.
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So it isn't a Hiroshima moment?
That was all just some more of your hyperbolic rhetoric?
Ok.
wow. even simple concepts evade you.

A Hiroshima moment is pretty specific rhetoric.
Kinda like a Godwin reference in a lot of ways.
Maybe you should cool your jets a bit with the dramatic rhetoric if you don't mean it?
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It seems republican conservative Trump supporters would like to see re-educations camps, internments and deportations. They would like to see selective profiling and banning of weapon sales to all Muslims and all Arabs.

No, Trump supporters have no idea what needs to be done, but they believe the Donald when he tells them he can fix it (although he's apparently going to keep the details a secret if anybody asks).

It's not what he says that counts here, it just the confidence he exhibits when he says it, and the gullibility of the listener that counts.
I think a halt to muslim immigration, as Obama did for 6 months in 2011 - is a wise move.
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Ted Cruz called out Obama and Clinton and these phony gay rights champion Democrats.

https://amp.businessinsider.com/ted-cruz-statement-orlando-shooting-2016-6
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True. We could adopt their gun laws.
Nope.
Guns has nothing to do with a safe society in Japan.

It's the culture that leftist like yourself refused to address because of pcness.
Bull shiatte. Their gun laws are an integral part of the Japanese culture.


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wow. even simple concepts evade you.

A Hiroshima moment is pretty specific rhetoric.
Kinda like a Godwin reference in a ot of ways.
Maybe you should cool your jets a bit with the dramatic rhetoric if you don't mean it?
Perhaps you should participate in one of the tabloid threads over on AA, since this thread has obviously exceeded your intellectual threshold.
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A Hiroshima moment is pretty specific rhetoric.
Kinda like a Godwin reference in a ot of ways.
Maybe you should cool your jets a bit with the dramatic rhetoric if you don't mean it?
Perhaps you should participate in one of the tabloid threads over on AA, since this thread has obviously exceeded your intellectual threshold.
I'm not the one calling for a "Hiroshima moment" followed with a disavowal of what that means when ya get called on it.
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Perhaps you should participate in one of the tabloid threads over on AA, since this thread has obviously exceeded your intellectual threshold.
I'm not the one calling for a "Hiroshima moment" followed with a disavowed of what that means when ya get called on it.
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I was the one that said it - and it is still above your intellectual pay grade after I went through the trouble of explaining it to you.

Seriously man - your posts make me cringe.
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Nope.
Guns has nothing to do with a safe society in Japan.

It's the culture that leftist like yourself refused to address because of pcness.
Bull shiatte. Their gun laws are an integral part of the Japanese culture.
Wrong again.

Look at how their citizens acted after the tsunami hit and compare that with New Orleans after hurricane Katrina hit.

night and day
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Given the number of weapons that are floating around in this country, there really is nothing the FBI and other law enforcement agencies can do that will guarantee our safety. If it's not some nut job Muslim with a gun, it's some nut job Christian with a gun. If it's not some job Christian with a gun, it's some mentally unstable nut job with a gun. If it's not some mentally unstable nut job with a gun, it's some whacked out nut job police officer with a gun. If it's not some whacked out nut job police officer with a gun, it's some nut job gang banger with a gun.

There is always going to be someone who is angry and willing to strike out with violence. And as long as those who are angry and willing to strike out with violence have easy access to guns, we're never going to be safe.

It is not every day when a few nut jobs kill thousands on 9/11, without a gun......It is not every day when one nut job shoots over a hundred people in a bar....Gun control issues pale in comparison, except to people, like Obama, who want to change the subject at hand...Jihadists remain an inherent part of Muslim faith................... :biggrin:
Yes, but it wasn't really the nutjobs that killed 3000 people, it was a plane, and the people died due to the buildings collapsing, not nutjobs going floor by floor shooting people.

Just to put it in proper perspective. The Orlando Shooting is the largest "mass shooting" by far this year. The next one down was the San Bernadino shooters one 12/2/2015 with 16 dead.

My question still stands.....

What do you think President Trump should do to combat the threat of Islamic terrorism within CONUS, that is Continental United States. There are 3.5 million Muslims currently living with the United States, the only thing so far voice was done by Edge, which was a ban on foreign investment building mosques here in the US. Which really wouldn't address the problem but at least it was something concrete
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I'm not the one calling for a "Hiroshima moment" followed with a disavowed of what that means when ya get called on it.
:rotflmao:
I was the one that said it - and it is still above your intellectual pay grade after I went through the trouble of explaining it to you.

Seriously man - your posts make me cringe.
Better is to retract the stupid comment than trying to justify using a stupid comment.
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