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What are you prepared to do against Muslims; After you've laid blame:your next step
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Antisemitism and Iraq War ProtestsNew York, NY, January 15, 2003 ... The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) expressed concern that antiwar protest rallies scheduled to take place this weekend in Washington, D.C. and San Francisco may employ inflammatory anti-Israel and anti-Jewish statements and rhetoric. Background: • Calendar of Anti-Israel Protests • Anti-Israel Protest Groups • Rallies Turn into Anti-Israel/Anti-Semitic Forums Organizers of the January 18 "National March in Washington to Demand: No War Against Iraq", the San Francisco rally, and other events scheduled for this weekend have previously embraced statements supporting Palestinian terrorism, equating Zionism with Nazism, and calling for the destruction of the Jewish state.
No, no, you don't get to make crap up against Lindbergh and then move the goal post. Never took you for a coward....7 pages...and you haven't given one solitary plan for after Drumpf does his ban or how to deal with 3.5 million Muslim -Americans afterwards.....coward, you, clone, and drudge....cowards all. His plan is kick out everyone that isn't white and America will be Great Again. He can't say that because even on the internet the anonymous white supremacist must be savvy and clever. He knows that his endgame is repulsive and undemocratic so the average person must be brought around slowly and slyly. They must be first taught to distrust that which is different before he embraces the hate and eventual elimination. Donald Tump isn't a white supremacist, he's an opportunistic megalomaniac who is using the specter of brown people stealing your jobs and lives as a means to get elected President. White supremacists love this because if victorious it reduces their workload and allows them greater freedom to function in public. He's a means to an end.
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Jun 13 2016, 09:33 PM
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Ok, so here we are 7 pages later, and NONE of those Trump-supporters could come up with one plan of attack AFTER their man got into office and had his ban enacted. There are 3.5 million American citizens who are Muslims. What..no courage of your convictions, I mean, what more do you want, I gave carte Blanche for anyone to speak their mind and I get squat.
It's your problem if you do not like the answers. There is no definite answers but we need to start somewhere or with something. You didn't answer anything. Not one single solitary, thing PAST blame which is what I acknowledged from the start. There are any number of suggestions you could have made, but all you could do is "Blame Obama, blame etc, etc'...which we already knew. My question posed was AFTER that...
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Jun 13 2016, 09:36 PM
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Ok, so here we are 7 pages later, and NONE of those Trump-supporters could come up with one plan of attack AFTER their man got into office and had his ban enacted. There are 3.5 million American citizens who are Muslims. What..no courage of your convictions, I mean, what more do you want, I gave carte Blanche for anyone to speak their mind and I get squat.
It's your problem if you do not like the answers. There is no definite answers but we need to start somewhere or with something.
You didn't answer anything. Not one single solitary, thing PAST blame which is what I acknowledged from the start. There are any number of suggestions you could have made, but all you could do is "Blame Obama, blame etc, etc'...which we already knew. My question posed was AFTER that... Lolz. I gave you a single conclusive answer; don't allow Saudi financing of mosques. I'll give you a second, don't allow Saudi financing of politicians a la Clinton and Bush.
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Jun 13 2016, 09:43 PM
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Mr. T is good at saying, "I can't hear you." I'll bet he doesn't have an answer or throw out some suggestions.
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Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind.
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Jun 13 2016, 11:22 PM
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Nope. Guns has nothing to do with a safe society in Japan. It's the culture that leftist like yourself refused to address because of pcness.
London's murder rate is about a quarter of that in the United States. It has fallen dramatically since the '90s as the number of immigrants has increased. It is lower than in 80/81 US cities with more than 250,000 inhabitants, and is only higher than Chandler, Arizona. London homicide stats . Perhaps your immigrants are just hiding the bodies ???...............
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Jun 14 2016, 07:51 AM
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Mr. T is good at saying, "I can't hear you." I'll bet he doesn't have an answer or throw out some suggestions. I'm much better at smelling b.s though and right about now you're smelling more then a little ripe.
As for edge's Saudi connection....ok...you don't think that American Muslims can finance their own mosque buildings? So after 7 pages...this is what we have.....
(1) Prevention of foreign construction funding for Islamic facilities in America.
Now, I don't know how that's going to prevent the next terrorist attack,but ok, I'll run with it.
As for Drudge's assertion that I have nothing, you're right, because I'm not paranoid, and I don't see Islamic terrorist cells behind every door. This country is way to secularized to ever become a theocracy or Islamic protectorate.
I can tell you that if you continue to demonize well over 1 billion Muslims for the actions of at best tens of thousands. You're going to see more Muslims feeling penned in with no other option but to seek safety within radicalized elements.
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Tsalagi, we need the mandatory study of Islam in U S schools. Most americans believe it's just another benign religion.
Chapter one would be: Wahhabism (Arabic: الوهابية, al-Wahhābiya(h)) or Wahhabi mission (; Arabic: الدعوة الوهابية, ad-Da'wa al-Wahhābiya(h) ) is a religious movement or branch of Sunni Islam.
Obama Administration Bans the Truth About Islam and Jihad
Fantasy-based analysis is now required at the highest levels in Washington. It has been a long time coming, but the Obama Administration has now officially banned the truth. Deputy U.S. Attorney General James Cole declared Wednesday at a conference in Washington that he had “recently directed all components of the Department of Justice to re-evaluate their training efforts in a range of areas, from community outreach to national security.” This “reevaluation” will remove all references to Islam in connection with any examination of Islamic jihad terror activity. The Obama Administration has now placed off-limits any investigation of the beliefs, motives and goals of jihad terrorists. Dwight C. Holton, former U.S. Attorney for the District of Oregon, emphasized that training materials for the FBI would be purged of everything politically incorrect: “I want to be perfectly clear about this: training materials that portray Islam as a religion of violence or with a tendency towards violence are wrong, they are offensive, and they are contrary to everything that this president, this attorney general and Department of Justice stands for. They will not be tolerated.”
http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/109847/obama-administration-bans-truth-about-islam-and-robert-spencer
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Jun 14 2016, 08:30 AM
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Tsalagi, we need the mandatory study of Islam in U S schools. Most americans believe it's just another benign religion. Chapter one would be: Wahhabism (Arabic: الوهابية, al-Wahhābiya(h)) or Wahhabi mission (; Arabic: الدعوة الوهابية, ad-Da'wa al-Wahhābiya(h) ) is a religious movement or branch of Sunni Islam. Obama Administration Bans the Truth About Islam and Jihad Fantasy-based analysis is now required at the highest levels in Washington. It has been a long time coming, but the Obama Administration has now officially banned the truth. Deputy U.S. Attorney General James Cole declared Wednesday at a conference in Washington that he had “recently directed all components of the Department of Justice to re-evaluate their training efforts in a range of areas, from community outreach to national security.” This “reevaluation” will remove all references to Islam in connection with any examination of Islamic jihad terror activity. The Obama Administration has now placed off-limits any investigation of the beliefs, motives and goals of jihad terrorists. Dwight C. Holton, former U.S. Attorney for the District of Oregon, emphasized that training materials for the FBI would be purged of everything politically incorrect: “I want to be perfectly clear about this: training materials that portray Islam as a religion of violence or with a tendency towards violence are wrong, they are offensive, and they are contrary to everything that this president, this attorney general and Department of Justice stands for. They will not be tolerated.” http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/109847/obama-administration-bans-truth-about-islam-and-robert-spencer Why solely on one faith, if we are going to dissect one, I say dissect them all. My people feared Christian missionaries just as much as you fear Islamic terrorist. Terrorists kill people, people can be replaced...Missionaries kill a culture and a way of life.
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Mr. T is good at saying, "I can't hear you." I'll bet he doesn't have an answer or throw out some suggestions.
I'm much better at smelling b.s though and right about now you're smelling more then a little ripe. As for edge's Saudi connection....ok...you don't think that American Muslims can finance their own mosque buildings? So after 7 pages...this is what we have..... (1) Prevention of foreign construction funding for Islamic facilities in America. Now, I don't know how that's going to prevent the next terrorist attack,but ok, I'll run with it. As for Drudge's assertion that I have nothing, you're right, because I'm not paranoid, and I don't see Islamic terrorist cells behind every door. This country is way to secularized to ever become a theocracy or Islamic protectorate. I can tell you that if you continue to demonize well over 1 billion Muslims for the actions of at best tens of thousands. You're going to see more Muslims feeling penned in with no other option but to seek safety within radicalized elements. What did Belgium receive for opening their arms? This problem has grown beyond alienation. It's a problem with the Islamic faith. Two last mass shootings were in the name of Allah. How are you going to convince Americans that Islam is not the blame? If they disagree with you, are you giving them the ignorant label? You called it paranoid. Many people like myself called it the survival of the Westernized culture. Sure, there aren't enough of them to do much in the West yet. But t what point we say, "wait, let's look at what's working and what's not" and start yanking wires?
It's funny when I hear the left saying islam isn't a problem but not one wants to move to Saudi Arabia, Dubai, Kuwait, or Oman. Notice those are "friends" of the US.
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Jun 14 2016, 09:19 AM
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Mr. T is good at saying, "I can't hear you." I'll bet he doesn't have an answer or throw out some suggestions.
I'm much better at smelling b.s though and right about now you're smelling more then a little ripe. As for edge's Saudi connection....ok...you don't think that American Muslims can finance their own mosque buildings? So after 7 pages...this is what we have..... (1) Prevention of foreign construction funding for Islamic facilities in America. Now, I don't know how that's going to prevent the next terrorist attack,but ok, I'll run with it. As for Drudge's assertion that I have nothing, you're right, because I'm not paranoid, and I don't see Islamic terrorist cells behind every door. This country is way to secularized to ever become a theocracy or Islamic protectorate. I can tell you that if you continue to demonize well over 1 billion Muslims for the actions of at best tens of thousands. You're going to see more Muslims feeling penned in with no other option but to seek safety within radicalized elements.
What did Belgium receive for opening their arms? This problem has grown beyond alienation. It's a problem with the Islamic faith. Two last mass shootings were in the name of Allah. How are you going to convince Americans that Islam is not the blame? If they disagree with you, are you giving them the ignorant label? You called it paranoid. Many people like myself called it the survival of the Westernized culture. Sure, there aren't enough of them to do much in the West yet. But t what point we say, "wait, let's look at what's working and what's not" and start yanking wires? It's funny when I hear the left saying islam isn't a problem but not one wants to move to Saudi Arabia, Dubai, Kuwait, or Oman. Notice those are "friends" of the US. No one wants to move to those places well, because basically they suck, they're hot, dry, intemperate places to live, unless you're stinking rich and Dubai is a rich man's playground.
There are 3.5 million Muslim-Americans in the US, and more homegrown will convert from other faiths, Trump's ban on Muslims doesn't speak crap to that.
Again, as for your statement "wait, let's look at what's not....." Again, that is what this thread war for....what do you expect a President Trump to do, or are you just about who is to blame?
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Jun 14 2016, 09:21 AM
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What did Belgium receive for opening their arms? This problem has grown beyond alienation. It's a problem with the Islamic faith. Two last mass shootings were in the name of Allah. How are you going to convince Americans that Islam is not the blame? If they disagree with you, are you giving them the ignorant label? You called it paranoid. Many people like myself called it the survival of the Westernized culture. Sure, there aren't enough of them to do much in the West yet. But t what point we say, "wait, let's look at what's working and what's not" and start yanking wires? It's funny when I hear the left saying islam isn't a problem but not one wants to move to Saudi Arabia, Dubai, Kuwait, or Oman. Notice those are "friends" of the US.
No one wants to move to those places well, because basically they suck, they're hot, dry, intemperate places to live, unless you're stinking rich and Dubai is a rich man's playground. There are 3.5 million Muslim-Americans in the US, and more homegrown will convert from other faiths, Trump's ban on Muslims doesn't speak crap to that. Again, as for your statement "wait, let's look at what's not....." Again, that is what this thread war for....what do you expect a President Trump to do, or are you just about who is to blame? Yeah - they are hot and dry, that's why they suck
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What did Belgium receive for opening their arms? This problem has grown beyond alienation. It's a problem with the Islamic faith. Two last mass shootings were in the name of Allah. How are you going to convince Americans that Islam is not the blame? If they disagree with you, are you giving them the ignorant label? You called it paranoid. Many people like myself called it the survival of the Westernized culture. Sure, there aren't enough of them to do much in the West yet. But t what point we say, "wait, let's look at what's working and what's not" and start yanking wires? It's funny when I hear the left saying islam isn't a problem but not one wants to move to Saudi Arabia, Dubai, Kuwait, or Oman. Notice those are "friends" of the US.
No one wants to move to those places well, because basically they suck, they're hot, dry, intemperate places to live, unless you're stinking rich and Dubai is a rich man's playground. There are 3.5 million Muslim-Americans in the US, and more homegrown will convert from other faiths, Trump's ban on Muslims doesn't speak crap to that. Again, as for your statement "wait, let's look at what's not....." Again, that is what this thread war for....what do you expect a President Trump to do, or are you just about who is to blame? How about we start with temporary stop on ALL immigration and look at what's working and what's not instead of saying Islam isn't the problem.
I've seen refugees of all kinds killing people but Muslims are the only ones kill in the name of Allah. That's what the American people see.
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A new and disturbing trend...
Paris jihadi LIVE STREAMED his MURDER of police chief and wife in front of their child
http://pamelageller.com/2016/06/paris-jihadi-live-streamed-his-murder-of-police-chief-and-wife-in-front-of-their-child.html/
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Please start another thread based on that crime, I'm still trying to get out from you guys just what the hell you want President Trump to Do...so far, all I've got is
Edge (1) Stop foreign investment in construction of mosques, won't stop them from building mosques, but kudos for playing.
Drudge (2) A ban on all immigration, patently illegal but ok.
I love Trump (3) Mandatory classes on Islam, yeah, because that's going to deter any of them 3.5 million Muslims already here
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Please start another thread based on that crime, I'm still trying to get out from you guys just what the hell you want President Trump to Do...so far, all I've got is
Edge (1) Stop foreign investment in construction of mosques, won't stop them from building mosques, but kudos for playing.
Drudge (2) A ban on all immigration, patently illegal but ok.
I love Trump (3) Mandatory classes on Islam, yeah, because that's going to deter any of them 3.5 million Muslims already here Plenty of answers - just none that support your narrative.
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Please start another thread based on that crime, I'm still trying to get out from you guys just what the hell you want President Trump to Do...so far, all I've got is
Edge (1) Stop foreign investment in construction of mosques, won't stop them from building mosques, but kudos for playing.
Drudge (2) A ban on all immigration, patently illegal but ok.
I love Trump (3) Mandatory classes on Islam, yeah, because that's going to deter any of them 3.5 million Muslims already here
Plenty of answers - just none that support your narrative. What narrative do you think I'm aiming for? Why do you think these answers would deter the very Islamic violence they say they are vehemently against?
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Please start another thread based on that crime, I'm still trying to get out from you guys just what the hell you want President Trump to Do...so far, all I've got is
Edge (1) Stop foreign investment in construction of mosques, won't stop them from building mosques, but kudos for playing.
Drudge (2) A ban on all immigration, patently illegal but ok.
I love Trump (3) Mandatory classes on Islam, yeah, because that's going to deter any of them 3.5 million Muslims already here
Plenty of answers - just none that support your narrative.
What narrative do you think I'm aiming for? Why do you think these answers would deter the very Islamic violence they say they are vehemently against? Immigration is the root cause of Islamic violence.
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What narrative do you think I'm aiming for? Why do you think these answers would deter the very Islamic violence they say they are vehemently against?
Immigration is the root cause of Islamic violence. Really, you don't think it our meddling in their affairs for the last century might not have something to do it as a factor?
Since we are a Nation of Immigrants, there are a plethora of laws that say you can't ban all immigration.
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Immigration is the root cause of Islamic violence.
Really, you don't think it our meddling in their affairs for the last century might not have something to do it as a factor? Since we are a Nation of Immigrants, there are a plethora of laws that say you can't ban all immigration. Immigration can be banned by country though.
Banning immigration from countries that support terrorism, ISIS etc seems like a rational move.
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Really, you don't think it our meddling in their affairs for the last century might not have something to do it as a factor? Since we are a Nation of Immigrants, there are a plethora of laws that say you can't ban all immigration.
Immigration can be banned by country though. Banning immigration from countries that support terrorism, ISIS etc seems like a rational move. Fair point, I'll grant you that, but it does nothing, absolutely friggin nothing for the 3.5 million Americans who are Muslims, 1st, 2nd gen, or even recent convert. The problem isn't foreign born, it's right here, which is what I've been trying to get them to answer.
I can take a stab at what they hope, but that would be sheer conjecture, so I started this thread with carte Blanche to say whatever they wanted, none of them have taken me up on the offer.
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