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The problem is?
Topic Started: Jun 14 2016, 07:45 PM (1,540 Views)
Mr. Tik
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The muslim who kills innocent civilians

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The anti Islamist who sets off a bomb and then kills scores of teenagers in cold blood

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The skinhead who slaughters Sikhs mistaking them for Muslims

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The young man who kills black church goers

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The patriot that detonates a bomb and destroys a federal building, killing hundreds

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Whats the real problem here?



You may be a conservative republican..if you are pro life until you get your mistress knocked up
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#NeverTrump
Where do you want me to start?
"...a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is detrimental...having lost the will..to demand...good..." - Rachel Carson
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Jun 14 2016, 07:51 PM
Where do you want me to start?
Anywhere you like..
You may be a conservative republican..if you are pro life until you get your mistress knocked up
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Mr. Tik
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Different mask..same face
You may be a conservative republican..if you are pro life until you get your mistress knocked up
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Most likely mental illness...
Donald Trump is Barack Obama's President!
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nNeo

The fragile, complex human psyche, overlaid on the tribal ape mind, on the best of days barely in control of the reptile "kill or be killed". Mix that with conflicts of self and society, add some hateful rhetoric or ideology, hormones, and a weapon = violence. As a species we're more clever than wise, and frighteningly capable of killing one another.

All those people strike me as anger looking for a cause and a target. You could have put any one in the others environment, with similar outcomes. Haters gonna hate, killers gonna kill.
“Strong people don’t need strong leaders.”
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Jun 14 2016, 08:08 PM
The fragile, complex human psyche, overlaid on the tribal ape mind, on the best of days barely in control of the reptile "kill or be killed". Mix that with conflicts of self and society, add some hateful rhetoric or ideology, hormones, and a weapon = violence. As a species we're more clever than wise, and frighteningly capable of killing one another.

All those people strike me as anger looking for a cause and a target. You could have put any one in the others environment, with similar outcomes. Haters gonna hate, killers gonna kill.
Best answer so far.
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Adolph Hipster
Jun 14 2016, 07:45 PM
The muslim who kills innocent civilians

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The anti Islamist who sets off a bomb and then kills scores of teenagers in cold blood

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The skinhead who slaughters Sikhs mistaking them for Muslims

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The young man who kills black church goers

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The patriot that detonates a bomb and destroys a federal building, killing hundreds

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Whats the real problem here?
Now for some balance.

Since 911 there have been about 30,000 Islamic terrorist attacks... Not Hindus killing non Hindus and not Jews attacking and killing non Jews and not Buddhists killing non Buddhists and not Christians killing non Christians.

Think it's just a "few bad apples" and that most Muslims condemn it? Think again.

Here is what Muslims really think.

Terrorism and What Muslims Think About it

ICM Poll: 20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... in-UK.html

NOP Research: 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/ ... 2011-04-06
http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY

People-Press: 31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq.
http://people-press.org/report/206/a-ye ... r-iraq-war

YNet: One third of Palestinians (32%) supported the slaughter of a Jewish family, including the children:
http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/04/ ... fanticide/
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 ... 51,00.html

World Public Opinion: 61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
83% of Palestinians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (only 14% oppose)
62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)
A minority of Muslims disagreed entirely with terror attacks on Americans:
(Egypt 34%; Indonesia 45%; Pakistan 33%)
About half of those opposed to attacking Americans were sympathetic with al-Qaeda’s attitude toward the U.S.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/ ... 09_rpt.pdf

Pew Research (2010): 55% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hezbollah
30% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hezbollah
45% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hezbollah (26% negative)
43% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hezbollah (30% negative)
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims ... hezbollah/

Pew Research (2010): 60% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hamas (34% negative).
49% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hamas (48% negative)
49% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hamas (25% negative)
39% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hamas (33% negative)
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims ... hezbollah/

Pew Research (2010): 15% of Indonesians believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.
34% of Nigerian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims ... hezbollah/
16% of young Muslims in Belgium state terrorism is "acceptable".
http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/1275/Islam/art ... baar.dhtml

Populus Poll (2006): 12% of young Muslims in Britain (and 12% overall) believe that suicide attacks against civilians in Britain can be justified. 1 in 4 support suicide attacks against British troops.
http://www.populuslimited.com/pdf/2006_02_07_times.pdf
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07 ... h-islamist

Pew Research (2007): 26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).
29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).
http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/musli ... df#page=60

Pew Research (2011): 8% of Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (81% never).
28% of Egyptian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (38% never).
http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/ ... extremism/

Pew Research (2007): Muslim-Americans who identify more strongly with their religion are three times more likely to feel that suicide bombings are justified
http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/musli ... df#page=60

ICM: 5% of Muslims in Britain tell pollsters they would not report a planned Islamic terror attack to authorities.
27% do not support the deportation of Islamic extremists preaching violence and hate.
http://www.scotsman.com/?id=1956912005
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07 ... amist.html

Federation of Student Islamic Societies: About 1 in 5 Muslim students in Britain (18%) would not report a fellow Muslim planning a terror attack.
http://www.fosis.org.uk/sac/FullReport.pdf
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07 ... h-islamist

ICM Poll: 25% of British Muslims disagree that a Muslim has an obligation to report terrorists to police.
http://www.icmresearch.co.uk/reviews/20 ... 0Nov04.asp
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07 ... h-islamist

Populus Poll (2006): 16% of British Muslims believe suicide attacks against Israelis are justified.
37% believe Jews in Britain are a "legitimate target".
http://www.populuslimited.com/pdf/2006_02_07_times.pdf
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07 ... h-islamist

Pew Research (2013): At least 1 in 4 Muslims do not reject violence against civilians (study did not distinguish between those who believe it is partially justified and never justified).
http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/T ... report.pdf

Pew Research (2013): 15% of Muslims in Turkey support suicide bombings (also 11% in Kosovo, 26% in Malaysia and 26% in Bangladesh).
http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/T ... report.pdf
PCPO (2014): 89% of Palestinians support Hamas and other terrorists firing rockets at Israeli civilians.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/08/poll- ... on-israely

Pew Research (2013): Only 57% of Muslims worldwide disapprove of al-Qaeda. Only 51% disapprove of the Taliban. 13% support both groups and 1 in 4 refuse to say.
http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/mus ... st-groups/
BBC Radio (2015): 45% of British Muslims agree that clerics preaching violence against the West represent "mainstream Islam".
http://comres.co.uk/polls/bbc-radio-4-t ... slim-poll/

Palestinian Center for Political Research (2015): 74% of Palestinians support Hamas terror attacks.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/193395

Pew Research (2014): 47% of Bangladeshi Muslims says suicide bombings and violence are justified to "defend Islam". 1 in 4 believed the same in Tanzania and Egypt. 1 in 5 Muslims in the 'moderate' countries of Turkey and Malaysia.
http://www.pewglobal.org/2014/07/01/con ... ddle-east/

The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 19% of Muslim-Americans say that violence is justified in order to make Sharia the law in the United States (66% disagree).
http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/ ... l-Data.pdf

The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 25% of Muslim-Americans say that violence against Americans in the United States is justified as part of the "global Jihad (64% disagree).
http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/ ... g-Company-
Nationwide-Online-Survey-of-Muslims-Topline-Poll-Data.pdf

The Sun (2015: Following Nov. 2015 attacks in Paris, 1 in 4 young Muslims in Britain (and 1 in 5 overall) said they sympathize with those who fight for ISIS.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... -poll.html

See also: http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_(Terrorism ) for further statistics on Islamic terror.
Edited by Jurist, Jun 14 2016, 08:38 PM.
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estonianman
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Oh snap - I think you just pwned like 6 threads all at once.

MEEK AND MILD
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estonianman
Jun 14 2016, 08:56 PM
Oh snap - I think you just pwned like 6 threads all at once.
Truth has a way of doing that.
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Lawdy..I have been Gish Galloped by a new poster named "jurist"
You may be a conservative republican..if you are pro life until you get your mistress knocked up
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estonianman
Jun 14 2016, 08:56 PM
Oh snap - I think you just pwned like 6 threads all at once.

Many of his sources are crap..and with the more credible links have statistics and information that he omitted that pretty much deflates his overall assertion.

Take a moment and peruse them and see what I mean.


P.S..thrown a clothes basket full of nerf balls at a poster isn't pwning
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Adolph Hipster
Jun 14 2016, 09:07 PM
estonianman
Jun 14 2016, 08:56 PM
Oh snap - I think you just pwned like 6 threads all at once.

Many of his sources are crap..and with the more credible links have statistics and information that he omitted that pretty much deflates his overall assertion.

Take a moment and peruse them and see what I mean.


P.S..thrown a clothes basket full of nerf balls at a poster isn't pwning
Easy sapphire

Most of the links seem to work - any specifics?
Edited by estonianman, Jun 14 2016, 09:17 PM.
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The problem is far more Muslims approved killing non-believers than Westerners calling for carpet bombimg every Arabic countries.

Did I mention that all Muslim countries celebrated after 9/11?
Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind.
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Adolph Hipster
Jun 14 2016, 09:07 PM
estonianman
Jun 14 2016, 08:56 PM
Oh snap - I think you just pwned like 6 threads all at once.

Many of his sources are crap..and with the more credible links have statistics and information that he omitted that pretty much deflates his overall assertion.

Take a moment and peruse them and see what I mean.


P.S..thrown a clothes basket full of nerf balls at a poster isn't pwning
@ Adolph Hipster: What sources are crap? Expand upon that. In other words, PROVE IT! You made a declaration, now back it up.

You know damn well those polls are reliable and respected. Why are not being truthful?
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Jurist is correct.

The difference is not only body counts - as in the last few days we have only been considering western deaths and not Muslim adversaries in the middle east. Who knows how many ISIS has killed - the estimates of 18000 seem way to low.

The main difference between Islam and the other murderers is that the violence of Islam is institutionalized.
Edited by estonianman, Jun 14 2016, 09:29 PM.
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estonianman
Jun 14 2016, 09:28 PM
Jurist is correct.

The difference is not only body counts - as in the last few days we have only been considering western deaths, and not Muslim adversaries in the middle east which is incredible knows how many ISIS has killed - the estimates of 18000 seem way to low.

The difference between Islam and the other murderers is that the violence of Islam is institutionalized.
Mexico with the free range capitalist in Mexico have comparable body counts and are just as barbaric..and right now..many areas in the ME is in a state of war.
There tends to be casualties when that happens
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dp
Edited by Mr. Tik, Jun 14 2016, 09:35 PM.
You may be a conservative republican..if you are pro life until you get your mistress knocked up
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Adolph Hipster
Jun 14 2016, 09:34 PM
Adolph Hipster
Jun 14 2016, 09:30 PM
estonianman
Jun 14 2016, 09:28 PM
Jurist is correct.

The difference is not only body counts - as in the last few days we have only been considering western deaths, and not Muslim adversaries in the middle east which is incredible knows how many ISIS has killed - the estimates of 18000 seem way to low.

The difference between Islam and the other murderers is that the violence of Islam is institutionalized.
Mexico with the free range capitalist in Mexico have comparable body counts and are just as barbaric..and right now..many areas in the ME is in a state of war.
There tends to be casualties when that happens
Furthermore...lets look at the last 100 years, the Imperial Japanese, The Soviets and the Nazis..all non Muslim.. had institutionalized brutality and murder.
And a much huger scale that ISIS can only dream of.

If this behavior was unique to ISIS and other jihadist groups, you would have a point.
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estonianman
Jun 14 2016, 09:17 PM
Adolph Hipster
Jun 14 2016, 09:07 PM
estonianman
Jun 14 2016, 08:56 PM
Oh snap - I think you just pwned like 6 threads all at once.

Many of his sources are crap..and with the more credible links have statistics and information that he omitted that pretty much deflates his overall assertion.

Take a moment and peruse them and see what I mean.


P.S..thrown a clothes basket full of nerf balls at a poster isn't pwning
Easy sapphire

Most of the links seem to work - any specifics?
They are blogs or anti islam type joints

Try the Pew link..lots of statistics that juror conveniently omitted
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