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This is not radical Islam. This is Islam.
Topic Started: Jun 15 2016, 04:28 PM (796 Views)
Harambe4Trump
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http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/06/15/live-wire-jihad-orlando-america-reacts/

When "our leaders" say "Diversity is strength" they mean that Diversity breaks down social cohesion so that they can rule forever.
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I think when they say "radical Islam" they actually mean radical Muslims. The vast majority of Muslims aren't on the same level as the crazy ones.
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sweet heart

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Jun 15 2016, 04:28 PM
In Islam you can't say about some one an adulterer without seeing the person while sex with 4 eye witnesses after that they have to go to court to tell the judge then the judge will ask that person about that if he said no , then he is free and no one can do anything ...
And even if there is a some one who killed the ppl's child for example the family can't go and kill that murderer there has to be some one who has aiuthoruty and there have to be judgement so the family of the murderer won't think that their son was innocent they will see the judgment and know that their son was guilty ... Other wise the world would be like a jungle
And for Muslims who are living in non Muslim country in Islam in our religion you have to respect the contract with the other side you went to a non Muslim country you know their rules you want to live there then they have to respect their rules ...
That person isn't jehadist he is a terrorist .
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sweet heart

Any Muslim who go to any country he will sign that he will respect the rules and sign in many papers before getting the visa , a real Muslim has to respect that contract.
Many religious ppl go around the world and cause they are religious they respect all the country rules they visit ... This is what Muslim should be .
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And thus have We willed you to be a community of the middle way, 118 so that [with your lives] you might bear witness to the truth before all mankind, and that the Apostle might bear witness to it before you. 119 Surat al baqara verse 143
In this verse God said we made you community of the middle way , he didn't say radical ,
What a middle way means ??? In Islam religious men aren't holy they are like us they get married they have a job they have children they travel they even go to the gym , they go to restaurants they play football go to the beach just like any one of the Muslims ...
And being religious doesn't mean spending the whole time in the mosque , there are business men who are religious any one could be religious it's not restricted to some ppl or group of ppl ...
Also for females , women don't have to go to the mosque to be religious .
And for scholars they are also not holy and there isn't any thing in Islam to do for scholars like special religious thing to do for him , he is a scholar cause he memorize Quran , Hadeeth and also a scholar doesn't only study religion only there is a shiekh who works as a pilot and travel every where put he put some time for religion to talk about his religion teach ppl about it ...
That's the middle way ... You don't live this life the whole time praying , all shiekhs play and swim , play with Thier children go to shopping malls ... Just like any person the only thing is that he put more time for reading about religion or teaching religion ...
And also shiekhs are not holy and they don't consider themselves holy they might make mistakes and many times they say ok I was wrong when I said that I'm sorry ...
That's the middle way making balance between life and religion ...
Also in Islam it's better to help ppl then just praying ... I'll try to post in details how it's better to help ppl then praying extra prayers ...
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Homosexuality is a death penalty offense in Saudi Arabia, is it not?
When "our leaders" say "Diversity is strength" they mean that Diversity breaks down social cohesion so that they can rule forever.
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sweet heart

The_Edgitarian
Jun 16 2016, 05:48 AM
Homosexuality is a death penalty offense in Saudi Arabia, is it not?
There has to be 4 eye witness who see the sexual act, it's not enough in Islam to see a person appearing like a woman to accuse him of sexual act it's very restricted to judge on a person , and if the person accused for being homosexual denied , he has to swear that he didn't do that homosexual act then he is free , and sharia is on Muslims only ... Like for example alcohol it's forbidden for Muslims only , pork ... Etc it's forbidden on Muslims like in Qatar or Emarete u can see a sign not for Muslims in Thier shops they have pork for non Muslims ...
Islam and sharia law is for Muslims , also in eygept Christians for example have different law in divorce not like the Muslim way they get married and divorced according to Thier way ... Not to the Islamic way .
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The_Edgitarian
Jun 16 2016, 05:48 AM
Homosexuality is a death penalty offense in Saudi Arabia, is it not?
Any judgement should be based on ppl who have authority and after a judgement , and after 4 eye witness who saw the sexual act , and that person admitting , if he said no I didn't and sweared he didn't then he is free ...
Also videos aren't accepted , also if the 4 eye witnesses said we saw the 2 under a blanket then the 4 eyewitnesses will get punished cause that isn't a witness they have to describe the sexual act with details and each one separately , if they found differences in Thier description , then the judge won't take it as a witness and the 4 eyewitnesses will be punished ...
This is very restricted in Islam ...
Even if some one say about women a whore then she can go to the court and say he said that about me the judge will ask the person where are the 4 eye witness do you have 4 eye witnesses to support you who saw her while sexual act if not he will be punished ... There have been some cases like that for example some ppl said about an actress a whore then she went to the court , they don't have the right to accuse her for being so
It's restricted you can't accuse some one about that ...
Edited by sweet heart, Jun 16 2016, 06:45 AM.
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sweet heart
Jun 16 2016, 06:31 AM
The_Edgitarian
Jun 16 2016, 05:48 AM
Homosexuality is a death penalty offense in Saudi Arabia, is it not?
There has to be 4 eye witness who see the sexual act, it's not enough in Islam to see a person appearing like a woman to accuse him of sexual act it's very restricted to judge on a person , and if the person accused for being homosexual denied , he has to swear that he didn't do that homosexual act then he is free , and sharia is on Muslims only ... Like for example alcohol it's forbidden for Muslims only , pork ... Etc it's forbidden on Muslims like in Qatar or Emarete u can see a sign not for Muslims in Thier shops they have pork for non Muslims ...
Islam and sharia law is for Muslims , also in eygept Christians for example have different law in divorce not like the Muslim way they get married and divorced according to Thier way ... Not to the Islamic way .
And this is based on the Koran or the Hadith? Sharia is the basis of law in Saudi Arabia. Are Saudi Executions of homosexuals acceptable under and accurate reading of the Koran?
When "our leaders" say "Diversity is strength" they mean that Diversity breaks down social cohesion so that they can rule forever.
#wallsnotwars
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sweet heart

The_Edgitarian
Jun 16 2016, 06:44 AM
sweet heart
Jun 16 2016, 06:31 AM
The_Edgitarian
Jun 16 2016, 05:48 AM
Homosexuality is a death penalty offense in Saudi Arabia, is it not?
There has to be 4 eye witness who see the sexual act, it's not enough in Islam to see a person appearing like a woman to accuse him of sexual act it's very restricted to judge on a person , and if the person accused for being homosexual denied , he has to swear that he didn't do that homosexual act then he is free , and sharia is on Muslims only ... Like for example alcohol it's forbidden for Muslims only , pork ... Etc it's forbidden on Muslims like in Qatar or Emarete u can see a sign not for Muslims in Thier shops they have pork for non Muslims ...
Islam and sharia law is for Muslims , also in eygept Christians for example have different law in divorce not like the Muslim way they get married and divorced according to Thier way ... Not to the Islamic way .
And this is based on the Koran or the Hadith? Sharia is the basis of law in Saudi Arabia. Are Saudi Executions of homosexuals acceptable under and accurate reading of the Koran?
The punishment of homosexuality isn't mentioned in the Quran it is in the hadeeth , in the Quran there is a story about the ppl prophet Lott was sent to they were the 1st homosexuals on earth ...
But they were punished by God ...
I think the bible talked about Thier punishment right ???
Also homosexuality has the same punishment in Christianity and Judaism ...
It's in the bible ...
In the Quran God talked about the 4 eye witness if some one accused some one for sex then there has to be 4 eye witnesses .
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sweet heart
Jun 16 2016, 06:50 AM
The_Edgitarian
Jun 16 2016, 06:44 AM
sweet heart
Jun 16 2016, 06:31 AM

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And this is based on the Koran or the Hadith? Sharia is the basis of law in Saudi Arabia. Are Saudi Executions of homosexuals acceptable under and accurate reading of the Koran?
The punishment of homosexuality isn't mentioned in the Quran it is in the hadeeth , in the Quran there is a story about the ppl prophet Lott was sent to they were the 1st homosexuals on earth ...
But they were punished by God ...
I think the bible talked about Thier punishment right ???
Also homosexuality has the same punishment in Christianity and Judaism ...
It's in the bible ...
In the Quran God talked about the 4 eye witness if some one accused some one for sex then there has to be 4 eye witnesses .
In Saudi Arabia, which bases its law on Islam, it is a death penalty offense to be a homosexual?
When "our leaders" say "Diversity is strength" they mean that Diversity breaks down social cohesion so that they can rule forever.
#wallsnotwars
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sweet heart

And I forgot something the person who is being accused should be Muslim if he isn't a Muslim then Muslims know that Muslims don't follow Islam and doesn't have to follow Islam ... But a Muslim accept Islam and he already knows that if he does this he will be punished a Muslim knows that and follow that , but a non Muslim doesn't follow Islam ...
And if the Muslim person said no I didn't do anything then he is free I don't think he will bring 4 eye witnesses to look at him , it's very restricted , also if no one see him he doesn't have to go to the court to tell about him self , he can ask God to forgive him , cause as a Muslim who follows Islam he knows it's a sin to him ... If he continues his homosexuality without any one knows about him then there is a judgment day we believe that every body will be judged by God and fair judgement ... So Muslims doesn't have to chase ppl to see if they are good ppl or not every person care about himself and his children and leave the rest ppl to Thier creator they Have a God who knows about them .
Quran
88:21 ( Surat al Gashya)


So remind, [O Muhammad]; you are only a reminder.

88:22

You are not over them a controller.

In this verse from the Quran God says to the prophet you are only a reminder , you are not over them a controller ...
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The_Edgitarian
Jun 16 2016, 07:21 AM
sweet heart
Jun 16 2016, 06:50 AM
The_Edgitarian
Jun 16 2016, 06:44 AM

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The punishment of homosexuality isn't mentioned in the Quran it is in the hadeeth , in the Quran there is a story about the ppl prophet Lott was sent to they were the 1st homosexuals on earth ...
But they were punished by God ...
I think the bible talked about Thier punishment right ???
Also homosexuality has the same punishment in Christianity and Judaism ...
It's in the bible ...
In the Quran God talked about the 4 eye witness if some one accused some one for sex then there has to be 4 eye witnesses .
In Saudi Arabia, which bases its law on Islam, it is a death penalty offense to be a homosexual?
If the rules I mentioned was all fulfilled and if the person is Muslim cause if he isn't a Muslim then he doesn't follow Islam , and he admitted that he did that and he didn't deny then yes , if he only says no and swears then he don't get the punishment , they leave him .
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sweet heart
Jun 16 2016, 07:30 AM
The_Edgitarian
Jun 16 2016, 07:21 AM
sweet heart
Jun 16 2016, 06:50 AM

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In Saudi Arabia, which bases its law on Islam, it is a death penalty offense to be a homosexual?
If the rules I mentioned was all fulfilled and if the person is Muslim cause if he isn't a Muslim then he doesn't follow Islam , and he admitted that he did that and he didn't deny then yes , if he only says no and swears then he don't get the punishment , they leave him .
Are you allowed to be anything else besides Muslim in Saudi Arabia?

So in Saudi Arabia, which is governed by Islam, you will be executed for admitting you are gay?
When "our leaders" say "Diversity is strength" they mean that Diversity breaks down social cohesion so that they can rule forever.
#wallsnotwars
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sweet heart

The_Edgitarian
Jun 16 2016, 07:33 AM
sweet heart
Jun 16 2016, 07:30 AM
The_Edgitarian
Jun 16 2016, 07:21 AM

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If the rules I mentioned was all fulfilled and if the person is Muslim cause if he isn't a Muslim then he doesn't follow Islam , and he admitted that he did that and he didn't deny then yes , if he only says no and swears then he don't get the punishment , they leave him .
Are you allowed to be anything else besides Muslim in Saudi Arabia?

So in Saudi Arabia, which is governed by Islam, you will be executed for admitting you are gay?
There are many non Muslims living in Saudi Arabia there are Christians , Hindu , Sikhs , budhi
And Islam means full submission to God ...
If some one admits he already knows the punishment if he says no then he will get away with it in this life .
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sweet heart
Jun 16 2016, 08:32 AM
The_Edgitarian
Jun 16 2016, 07:33 AM
sweet heart
Jun 16 2016, 07:30 AM

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Are you allowed to be anything else besides Muslim in Saudi Arabia?

So in Saudi Arabia, which is governed by Islam, you will be executed for admitting you are gay?
There are many non Muslims living in Saudi Arabia there are Christians , Hindu , Sikhs , budhi
And Islam means full submission to God ...
If some one admits he already knows the punishment if he says no then he will get away with it in this life .
How many Hindu citizens of Saudi Arabia are there? If someone decides his homosexuality was incompatible with Islam and became a Buddhist or atheist, what would happen to him?
When "our leaders" say "Diversity is strength" they mean that Diversity breaks down social cohesion so that they can rule forever.
#wallsnotwars
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sweet heart

The_Edgitarian
Jun 16 2016, 08:41 AM
sweet heart
Jun 16 2016, 08:32 AM
The_Edgitarian
Jun 16 2016, 07:33 AM

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There are many non Muslims living in Saudi Arabia there are Christians , Hindu , Sikhs , budhi
And Islam means full submission to God ...
If some one admits he already knows the punishment if he says no then he will get away with it in this life .
How many Hindu citizens of Saudi Arabia are there? If someone decides his homosexuality was incompatible with Islam and became a Buddhist or atheist, what would happen to him?
How many Hindu , I don really know but there are many foreign ppl , for apostasy , in the begginning of Islam there wasn't a punishment but some ppl used to claim they are Muslims spread lies among Muslims and shake Thier faith and then they say no we aren't Muslims and then later they say we are Muslims just to get among Muslims and spread rumors among Muslims and lies ... There were many who used to do that , so when there is a restricted rule from the begginning then that person will think many times before claiming to be Muslim ... Also Christianity and Judaism have the same thing ...
But if the apostate ran away then Muslims doesn't have to chase him he is free cause the main problem like first Muslims faced was that ppl used to claim that they are Muslims many times and apostate many times too with bad intentions to shake Muslims believe , to spread lies and rumors among Muslims , they were not just believing and changing their minds minds many times they had bad intentions ...
Also to be an athiest isn't so hard no one will come and ask you what do you believe , just stop praying 5 times a day stop fasting stop believing no one will ever notice it's in ppl heart no one would know what's in each persons heart .
Edited by sweet heart, Jun 16 2016, 09:00 AM.
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I understand English is not your first language; however, I don't understand what you are trying to say.
When "our leaders" say "Diversity is strength" they mean that Diversity breaks down social cohesion so that they can rule forever.
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what a fool Trump is! Validifying isis and alqaeeda by calling them Islamic! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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