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Growing support for Muslim ban, even among Democrats and liberals
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Have you noticed how this guy is going way out of his way to cover this Muzzie killer's ass? I have. He's a murdering scumbag and did I mention that he was a Muslim .. who murdered in the name of his religion? That he was part of Islamic Jihad? Imagine him going to these lengths trying to cover the arse of a Euro? I can't.
Covering?...He's going to get life anyway you slice it Philly? Are you a sock puppet for Edge, or is he a sockpuppets for you because I was have a discussion with him, so why don't you go cry in a corner somewhere because you're feeling under appreciated. I have never said he was innocent, never said he shouldn't be arrested, tried, convicted and in my opinion, should get the DP for his actions. But I'm not prepared to make him a matyr for ISIS just because some people heard..who's heard other people, etc... Why do you keep calling him: This man .. this man. He doesn't deserve the title. You're excuse making to the extreme for him because he is a Muslim.
What did you call that white punk who shot up the black church several months ago? Did you call him; this man? Did you delve into his family history trying to find excuses as to why he did what he did? He changed the law and got a flag banned so were you on the front line trying to excuse make for him? No you didn't.
I told you again and again that you are not consistent because you change your political hats depending on the person's race such as mine over the Vietnam incident.
Would you like me to research your comments about him and see if you were into sympathy and family background over him?
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Jun 18 2016, 04:03 PM
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http://akinokure.blogspot.comOne overlooked reason why there is such silence on Islamic terrorism when the Orlando attacks are discussed by the Establishment of both parties, their media mouthpieces, and their shills on social media, is that there is growing grassroots support for a temporary ban on Muslims entering the country -- and this growth is due mostly to Democrats and liberals beginning to change their minds.
Every civilized nation on earth has put a ban on immigration at one time or another for the sake of the security and well being of their cultures. There's nothing in the constitution that forbids immigration bans for the sake of we the people. That's what these elected officials are supposed to do for our safety and well being. Tsalagi is playing racial quota games and he will continue to oppose any measure that slows down the influx of brown faces into a country that contains still too many white (Christian) faces to suit him.
Why are you still typing, I'm trying very hard to ignore your childish commentary.. And I'm tired of you (every time I visit here) covering for this mass killer's arse.
He murdered in the name of his religion. The 911 call confirmed it.
And he is NOT, this man. Now deal with it.
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Jun 18 2016, 05:03 PM
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Covering?...He's going to get life anyway you slice it Philly? Are you a sock puppet for Edge, or is he a sockpuppets for you because I was have a discussion with him, so why don't you go cry in a corner somewhere because you're feeling under appreciated. I have never said he was innocent, never said he shouldn't be arrested, tried, convicted and in my opinion, should get the DP for his actions. But I'm not prepared to make him a matyr for ISIS just because some people heard..who's heard other people, etc...
Why do you keep calling him: This man .. this man. He doesn't deserve the title. You're excuse making to the extreme for him because he is a Muslim. What did you call that white punk who shot up the black church several months ago? Did you call him; this man? Did you delve into his family history trying to find excuses as to why he did what he did? He changed the law and got a flag banned so were you on the front line trying to excuse make for him? No you didn't. I told you again and again that you are not consistent because you change your political hats depending on the person's race such as mine over the Vietnam incident. Would you like me to research your comments about him and see if you were into sympathy and family background over him? You're talking nonsense, and that's saying something. I'm weighing ALL factors at play here, not just the ones you like to make a connection to. By all means, do your research, and I say this man because frankly I can't recall his name offhand..truth be told. He's a man, he has testicles, a schlong, apparently man is appropriate in this case?
Again, never said he shouldn't be arrested, tried, convicted, and arrested, just not ready to jump on the "he's a terrorist" bandwagon when there are valid other reasonings that have come out over this issue.
The fact that you are white doesn't hold sway with me, the fact that you willingly engaged in the torture of an unarmed prisoner of war in direct violation of the Geneva Convention and the Uniform Code of Military Justice does.
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Jun 18 2016, 05:06 PM
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deep http://akinokure.blogspot.com you're hilarious Ts.. why would he 1 man, go after any government agency when America is loaded with whacked out libs soft targets? too funny.. and what you fail to see is his religion requires him to kill gays.. even if he is gay himself.. your constant unwillingness to actually do real research on radical Islam instead of going by left wing soundbites is shinning through..
And your ability to believe any whack job theory as long as it falls into the Islam - All terrorists theory lacks critical thinking. Terrorists strike at targets that have more effect then just the local club scene, they want to make a spectacular statement, why go after a gay club when there are any number of valid targets that he could have done the same? Orlando International Airport, there's one, max casualties, shuts down airlines for hours, Amtrak or CSX train depots which shut down cargo transport even temporarily, these are both "Soft" targets. I've done probably as good a research as most have here, less then others, and I'm not blind to the realities of Islamic terrorism...but this just doesn't strike me that way. There is nothing left or right about a self-loathing gay male with a psychoses reinforced by religous idealogy. it doesn't matter if you're in denial or not Ts.. what matters is more soft targets will be attacked and the one common denominator in these shootings is radical Islam.. he said it was his pledge to Isis and his history most definitely proves how radical he truly was.. to deliberately brush off that this was an Isis attack only proves how hopelessly ignorant those who deny it really are.. Again, there are much better "soft targets" that actually can affect economics, or political means. This guy's target did nothing to affect the economy or political nature of Orlando. His father said he was also upset over two men kissing, when he himself has been hanging out there, so my theory that he had a psychotic break brought on by his self-loathing of himself as a homosexual or at least bisexual male is just as plausible. His faith may have been the trigger, of that I'm willing to concede
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deep http://akinokure.blogspot.com you're hilarious Ts.. why would he 1 man, go after any government agency when America is loaded with whacked out libs soft targets? too funny.. and what you fail to see is his religion requires him to kill gays.. even if he is gay himself.. your constant unwillingness to actually do real research on radical Islam instead of going by left wing soundbites is shinning through.. it doesn't matter if you're in denial or not Ts.. what matters is more soft targets will be attacked and the one common denominator in these shootings is radical Islam.. he said it was his pledge to Isis and his history most definitely proves how radical he truly was.. to deliberately brush off that this was an Isis attack only proves how hopelessly ignorant those who deny it really are..
Again, there are much better "soft targets" that actually can affect economics, or political means. This guy's target did nothing to affect the economy or political nature of Orlando. His father said he was also upset over two men kissing, when he himself has been hanging out there, so my theory that he had a psychotic break brought on by his self-loathing of himself as a homosexual or at least bisexual male is just as plausible. His faith may have been the trigger, of that I'm willing to concede How did the Bataclan massacre target the economy?
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Jun 18 2016, 06:45 PM
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deep http://akinokure.blogspot.com you're hilarious Ts.. why would he 1 man, go after any government agency when America is loaded with whacked out libs soft targets? too funny.. and what you fail to see is his religion requires him to kill gays.. even if he is gay himself.. your constant unwillingness to actually do real research on radical Islam instead of going by left wing soundbites is shinning through.. it doesn't matter if you're in denial or not Ts.. what matters is more soft targets will be attacked and the one common denominator in these shootings is radical Islam.. he said it was his pledge to Isis and his history most definitely proves how radical he truly was.. to deliberately brush off that this was an Isis attack only proves how hopelessly ignorant those who deny it really are..
Again, there are much better "soft targets" that actually can affect economics, or political means. This guy's target did nothing to affect the economy or political nature of Orlando. His father said he was also upset over two men kissing, when he himself has been hanging out there, so my theory that he had a psychotic break brought on by his self-loathing of himself as a homosexual or at least bisexual male is just as plausible. His faith may have been the trigger, of that I'm willing to concede
How did the Bataclan massacre target the economy? Irrevelent to this discussion.
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Jun 19 2016, 10:12 AM
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http://akinokure.blogspot.comOne overlooked reason why there is such silence on Islamic terrorism when the Orlando attacks are discussed by the Establishment of both parties, their media mouthpieces, and their shills on social media, is that there is growing grassroots support for a temporary ban on Muslims entering the country -- and this growth is due mostly to Democrats and liberals beginning to change their minds.
Every civilized nation on earth has put a ban on immigration at one time or another for the sake of the security and well being of their cultures. There's nothing in the constitution that forbids immigration bans for the sake of we the people. That's what these elected officials are supposed to do for our safety and well being. Tsalagi is playing racial quota games and he will continue to oppose any measure that slows down the influx of brown faces into a country that contains still too many white (Christian) faces to suit him. Several points not necessarily in reply to your post. If the shooter was born in America he is an American. If the shooter immigrated to American and later gained citizenship he is an American.
With regard to a Muslim ban. I checked with my son who is studying constitutional law at the master's degree level at a top 10 law school specifically focusing on the 5th and 14th amendments. Trump or anyone else cannot ban Muslims or any other religion based on the grounds of religion, the constitution will now allow for it. What can be done is to modify the immigration requirements for select geological regions which is what I suspect Trump means but has not said. What he claims he will do is simpler for the average Joe Schmoe to mentally digest and agree with.
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Jun 19 2016, 12:44 PM
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http://akinokure.blogspot.comOne overlooked reason why there is such silence on Islamic terrorism when the Orlando attacks are discussed by the Establishment of both parties, their media mouthpieces, and their shills on social media, is that there is growing grassroots support for a temporary ban on Muslims entering the country -- and this growth is due mostly to Democrats and liberals beginning to change their minds.
Every civilized nation on earth has put a ban on immigration at one time or another for the sake of the security and well being of their cultures. There's nothing in the constitution that forbids immigration bans for the sake of we the people. That's what these elected officials are supposed to do for our safety and well being. Tsalagi is playing racial quota games and he will continue to oppose any measure that slows down the influx of brown faces into a country that contains still too many white (Christian) faces to suit him.
Several points not necessarily in reply to your post. If the shooter was born in America he is an American. If the shooter immigrated to American and later gained citizenship he is an American. With regard to a Muslim ban. I checked with my son who is studying constitutional law at the master's degree level at a top 10 law school specifically focusing on the 5th and 14th amendments. Trump or anyone else cannot ban Muslims or any other religion based on the grounds of religion, the constitution will now allow for it. What can be done is to modify the immigration requirements for select geological regions which is what I suspect Trump means but has not said. What he claims he will do is simpler for the average Joe Schmoe to mentally digest and agree with. Exactly, he can halt immigration from say a "country" like Iran, based on certain national security threats, but he can't do it because they're Muslims.
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Jun 19 2016, 02:20 PM
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. Muslims make for boring neighborhoods.
And Radical Islamists radically boring neighborhoods without character outside of the giggles you get from listening to their admittedly repetitive "Allo Haaa Wogbaaaa!"!
Better they be discouraged from joining your community. . .
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http://akinokure.blogspot.comOne overlooked reason why there is such silence on Islamic terrorism when the Orlando attacks are discussed by the Establishment of both parties, their media mouthpieces, and their shills on social media, is that there is growing grassroots support for a temporary ban on Muslims entering the country -- and this growth is due mostly to Democrats and liberals beginning to change their minds.
Every civilized nation on earth has put a ban on immigration at one time or another for the sake of the security and well being of their cultures. There's nothing in the constitution that forbids immigration bans for the sake of we the people. That's what these elected officials are supposed to do for our safety and well being. Tsalagi is playing racial quota games and he will continue to oppose any measure that slows down the influx of brown faces into a country that contains still too many white (Christian) faces to suit him.
Several points not necessarily in reply to your post. If the shooter was born in America he is an American. If the shooter immigrated to American and later gained citizenship he is an American. With regard to a Muslim ban. I checked with my son who is studying constitutional law at the master's degree level at a top 10 law school specifically focusing on the 5th and 14th amendments. Trump or anyone else cannot ban Muslims or any other religion based on the grounds of religion, the constitution will now allow for it. What can be done is to modify the immigration requirements for select geological regions which is what I suspect Trump means but has not said. What he claims he will do is simpler for the average Joe Schmoe to mentally digest and agree with. Yes he can temporarily to protect we the people. It's his duty to place the temporary ban if suspected terrorists or terrorist groups are entering this country with a free pass courtesy of Obama and his state department.
And your killer is a Muslim who acted on behalf of a radical Muslim organization within Islamic Jihad, self admitted to the fact.
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Several points not necessarily in reply to your post. If the shooter was born in America he is an American. If the shooter immigrated to American and later gained citizenship he is an American. With regard to a Muslim ban. I checked with my son who is studying constitutional law at the master's degree level at a top 10 law school specifically focusing on the 5th and 14th amendments. Trump or anyone else cannot ban Muslims or any other religion based on the grounds of religion, the constitution will now allow for it. What can be done is to modify the immigration requirements for select geological regions which is what I suspect Trump means but has not said. What he claims he will do is simpler for the average Joe Schmoe to mentally digest and agree with.
Exactly, he can halt immigration from say a "country" like Iran, based on certain national security threats, but he can't do it because they're Muslims. Yes he can. For the purpose of national security and to protect the American people.
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Exactly, he can halt immigration from say a "country" like Iran, based on certain national security threats, but he can't do it because they're Muslims.
Yes he can. For the purpose of national security and to protect the American people. Please provide for me the pertinent Constitutional Authority to disregard the 1st Amendment to the Constitution, or revelant National Security Act of 1947 (amended 1952) that supports your claim.
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Several points not necessarily in reply to your post. If the shooter was born in America he is an American. If the shooter immigrated to American and later gained citizenship he is an American. With regard to a Muslim ban. I checked with my son who is studying constitutional law at the master's degree level at a top 10 law school specifically focusing on the 5th and 14th amendments. Trump or anyone else cannot ban Muslims or any other religion based on the grounds of religion, the constitution will now allow for it. What can be done is to modify the immigration requirements for select geological regions which is what I suspect Trump means but has not said. What he claims he will do is simpler for the average Joe Schmoe to mentally digest and agree with.
Exactly, he can halt immigration from say a "country" like Iran, based on certain national security threats, but he can't do it because they're Muslims. That's a semantic difference.
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Exactly, he can halt immigration from say a "country" like Iran, based on certain national security threats, but he can't do it because they're Muslims.
That's a semantic difference. No, it's not, let's say...the Philipines, large Muslim minority, Japan, and China, Russia, Germany, all have Muslim minority groups within their borders. You going to stop the Chinese from coming?
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That's a semantic difference.
No, it's not, let's say...the Philipines, large Muslim minority, Japan, and China, Russia, Germany, all have Muslim minority groups within their borders. You going to stop the Chinese from coming? Interesting; so Trump changes his terminology so that it accomplishes 95% of original goal but it's a failure because the 0.08% Japanese Muslim population would be able to get in
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No, it's not, let's say...the Philipines, large Muslim minority, Japan, and China, Russia, Germany, all have Muslim minority groups within their borders. You going to stop the Chinese from coming?
Interesting; so Trump changes his terminology so that it accomplishes 95% of original goal but it's a failure because the 0.08% Japanese Muslim population would be able to get in Chechnya, a former Soviet Satellite Republic are primarily Muslims, Bosnia-Hezogovina in the Balks, the Kosovars of Albania in the Balkans are heavily Muslim.
And all it took for 9-11 to happen was 13 men...so that 0.08%, not looking that small is it?
Your ban also does not, and you've pointedly ignored this point, it does NOTHING for those that convert here in the US.
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Interesting; so Trump changes his terminology so that it accomplishes 95% of original goal but it's a failure because the 0.08% Japanese Muslim population would be able to get in
Chechnya, a former Soviet Satellite Republic are primarily Muslims, Bosnia-Hezogovina in the Balks, the Kosovars of Albania in the Balkans are heavily Muslim. And all it took for 9-11 to happen was 13 men...so that 0.08%, not looking that small is it? Your ban also does not, and you've pointedly ignored this point, it does NOTHING for those that convert here in the US. 19 men, 18 of which were from Saudi Arabia, as was the San Bernadino Murderess. I find no reason to admit Chechnyans.
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Chechnya, a former Soviet Satellite Republic are primarily Muslims, Bosnia-Hezogovina in the Balks, the Kosovars of Albania in the Balkans are heavily Muslim. And all it took for 9-11 to happen was 13 men...so that 0.08%, not looking that small is it? Your ban also does not, and you've pointedly ignored this point, it does NOTHING for those that convert here in the US.
19 men, 18 of which were from Saudi Arabia, as was the San Bernadino Murderess. I find no reason to admit Chechnyans. Again, ignored the point.....what of those who convert HERE.....your ban does NOTHING to address that point.
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19 men, 18 of which were from Saudi Arabia, as was the San Bernadino Murderess. I find no reason to admit Chechnyans.
Again, ignored the point.....what of those who convert HERE.....your ban does NOTHING to address that point. Was it a convert who massacred the Pulse?
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Again, ignored the point.....what of those who convert HERE.....your ban does NOTHING to address that point.
Was it a convert who massacred the Pulse? STILL ducking the question.
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