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EU referendum results live: Brexit most likely outcome says leading pollster
Topic Started: Jun 23 2016, 09:09 PM (12,020 Views)
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Jun 27 2016, 01:08 AM
montesquieu
Jun 26 2016, 10:57 PM
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To all you Paddy enfranchisers: it never happen!

The north hate the South and vice (quite literally in Catholic ecclesiastical circles) versa!

At least I've been to/lived in the land of the Bog-Trotters rather than throwing out their somewhat 'vague' propaganda
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Oh, so you mean you're talking out of your arse? Because funny, I've talked to several folks that I know who live both in Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland and they're not matching your ''clear cut'' assertion.
What happens when the Royal Throne Amazonian bog women of the great Pig and Whistle Pub reject welfare by growing their own potatoes?

They don't need no stinking London help.

And speaking of the Londoners, do you actually thing they give a bloody crap what the rest of Britain thinks?
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Jun 27 2016, 03:19 PM
W A Mozart
Jun 27 2016, 11:19 AM
An absolutely "must watch" video on Brexit.


It explains everything.... :popcorn:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie-u47gRws0


Mozart
If even half of that was accurate the Brits would have been fools not to leave.

Of course, nearly all of the pro-leave economic arguments in that video hinge on the UK getting rid of overbearing EU regulation while NOT enacting their own overbearing regulation.

Here is another interesting article.

http://theresurgent.com/what-brexit-is-and-is-not-about/

Yeah, thanks for actually watching that piece. It covers all of the bases and explains what Brexit is all about.

I encourage everyone to watch this video...

Mozart
Edited by W A Mozart, Jun 27 2016, 08:53 PM.
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The old voted to leave, the young to stay. Massive simplification, but roughly true.

It looks like growth is going to be hit and immigration might come down, meaning less money and fewer workers to support pensions. With its ageing population, Britain has made enormous pension promises, increasing cash out to each pensioner while wages have stagnated. By the 2040s, governments have promised increased pension payments worth about £6,200 per worker if we have low immigration, about 23% of the median salary.

The young should demand that any extra costs incurred by brexit are paid by the old. If the finance people are right we need to be prepared to bring forward pension age increases and freeze pension benefits to ensure that the young aren't paying even more for a decision they didn't want. The young have already been milked enough by the baby boomers with tuition fees, soaring rents and cuts to services and benefits for the young while pensions spending increased 25% in one parliament.
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Jun 27 2016, 10:54 PM
The old voted to leave, the young to stay. Massive simplification, but roughly true.

It looks like growth is going to be hit and immigration might come down, meaning less money and fewer workers to support pensions. With its ageing population, Britain has made enormous pension promises, increasing cash out to each pensioner while wages have stagnated. By the 2040s, governments have promised increased pension payments worth about £6,200 per worker if we have low immigration, about 23% of the median salary.

The young should demand that any extra costs incurred by brexit are paid by the old. If the finance people are right we need to be prepared to bring forward pension age increases and freeze pension benefits to ensure that the young aren't paying even more for a decision they didn't want. The young have already been milked enough by the baby boomers with tuition fees, soaring rents and cuts to services and benefits for the young while pensions spending increased 25% in one parliament.
Thank God for Jeremy Corbyn. The Brexit could not have happened without his work.
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Jun 27 2016, 10:54 PM
The old voted to leave, the young to stay. Massive simplification, but roughly true.


The young should demand that any extra costs incurred by brexit are paid by the old. If the finance people are right we need to be prepared to bring forward pension age increases and freeze pension benefits to ensure that the young aren't paying even more for a decision they didn't want. The young have already been milked enough by the baby boomers with tuition fees, soaring rents and cuts to services and benefits for the young while pensions spending increased 25% in one parliament.


Ah! Those stupid old people! Taking away the future, taking away the economic possibilities of the young. Without the EU in their future, a hopeless, dreary life awaits them all! How dare they? Just like the young is Switzerland. No future.

Don't you just love the way the news media and the liberals/globalists/socialists spin a story? Old vs. Young. Simple. Those g'damn old people are destroying the future for us all! We must do something, stop them.

The obvious assumption here of course is that the participation with a massive, faceless EU bureaucracy, accountable to no one, is the friggen future! These guys know best. You betcha. Right. Got it. The Orwellian EU is the future! (Er, didja watch the Brexit video above?) We all got the message here. Spin the vote!

Now, if you're so worried about the YOUNG, and being milked and all of that, and being forced to pay those obscene pensions, might I suggest we place the blame on politicians, liberal/socialist politicians? Kinda like Greece, no? What it's called is spend, spend, spend till the cows come home and then scream "austerity" when someone is forced to pay the bills and make the ends meet. Greece. Socialists. Marxists. The Labor Party. Corbyn. Here in the United States the same FAR left-wingers saddled the YOUNG with over 20 trillion dollars in debt. Shhh! Quiet! Don't tell em yet. With me here? Who cares, we'll all be dead by the time the bill (for the young) comes due. In the UK it's just the same. They Labor Party has already spent the future, and the debt is coming due. Ooops. too bad. No money. I guess we'll just have to raise taxes, ...to 90% ....?


Mozart
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Scim
Jun 27 2016, 10:54 PM
The old voted to leave, the young to stay. Massive simplification, but roughly true.

It looks like growth is going to be hit and immigration might come down, meaning less money and fewer workers to support pensions. With its ageing population, Britain has made enormous pension promises, increasing cash out to each pensioner while wages have stagnated. By the 2040s, governments have promised increased pension payments worth about £6,200 per worker if we have low immigration, about 23% of the median salary.

The young should demand that any extra costs incurred by brexit are paid by the old. If the finance people are right we need to be prepared to bring forward pension age increases and freeze pension benefits to ensure that the young aren't paying even more for a decision they didn't want. The young have already been milked enough by the baby boomers with tuition fees, soaring rents and cuts to services and benefits for the young while pensions spending increased 25% in one parliament.
The majority of 18-24 year olds didn't vote at all, and that's despite a massive effort aimed particularly at them to do so.

I'm shocked by the number of people who are agitating for a second referendum because they didn't like the result of the first.
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W A Mozart
Jun 28 2016, 09:02 AM
Scim
Jun 27 2016, 10:54 PM
The old voted to leave, the young to stay. Massive simplification, but roughly true.


The young should demand that any extra costs incurred by brexit are paid by the old. If the finance people are right we need to be prepared to bring forward pension age increases and freeze pension benefits to ensure that the young aren't paying even more for a decision they didn't want. The young have already been milked enough by the baby boomers with tuition fees, soaring rents and cuts to services and benefits for the young while pensions spending increased 25% in one parliament.


Ah! Those stupid old people! Taking away the future, taking away the economic possibilities of the young. Without the EU in their future, a hopeless, dreary life awaits them all! How dare they? Just like the young is Switzerland. No future.

Don't you just love the way the news media and the liberals/globalists/socialists spin a story? Old vs. Young. Simple. Those g'damn old people are destroying the future for us all! We must do something, stop them.

The obvious assumption here of course is that the participation with a massive, faceless EU bureaucracy, accountable to no one, is the friggen future! These guys know best. You betcha. Right. Got it. The Orwellian EU is the future! (Er, didja watch the Brexit video above?) We all got the message here. Spin the vote!


Here is an interesting Rolling Stone article that is so good and applies to both the UK and the USA so much I think I am going to give it it's own topic over on the Opinion board.

It did not want to load properly in Chrome so you may have to use IE or Edge to see the whole article.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-reaction-to-brexit-is-the-reason-brexit-happened-20160627?page=2

Here is a snippet.

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Too much license, Plato wrote (and Sullivan echoed), leads to a spoiled populace that will turn to a strongman for revenge if anyone gets in the way of the party. These "men of naught" will inevitably denounce as oligarchs any wise group of rulers who try to set basic/sensible rules for society.

You have to be a snob of the first order, completely high on your own gas, to try to apply these arguments to present-day politics, imagining yourself as an analog to Plato's philosopher-kings
And you have to have a cast-iron head to not grasp that saying stuff like this out loud is part of what inspires populations to movements like Brexit or the Trump campaign in the first place.

Were I British, I'd probably have voted to Remain. But it's not hard to understand being pissed off at being subject to unaccountable bureaucrats in Brussels. Nor is it hard to imagine the post-Brexit backlash confirming every suspicion you might have about the people who run the EU.

Imagine having pundits and professors suggest you should have your voting rights curtailed because you voted Leave. Now imagine these same people are calling voters like you "children," and castigating you for being insufficiently appreciative of, say, the joys of submitting to a European Supreme Court that claims primacy over the Magna Carta and the Bill of Rights.

The overall message in every case is the same: Let us handle things.


Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-reaction-to-brexit-is-the-reason-brexit-happened-20160627#ixzz4CsdUW0Nk
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Jun 26 2016, 05:15 PM
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Jun 25 2016, 11:43 AM
edro14
Jun 24 2016, 09:42 PM
Wales and Ireland will now vote to leave the UK.

Britain alone and drowning in their own sorrows.
Interesting Edro... Northern Ireland wanted to "REMAIN".

This could be the reunification of the North and South to form a single Republic.

That is an amazing observation and one I hope comes true...

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Scotland could join them and then they'd have no problem to stay in the EU.
i would like to see it... but it could strain the Irish economy if France pulls out as well as Italy.

if Germany pulls out... the ballgame is over
Trump needs to focus more so on the male vote. He should have nationalized the Boy Scouts when they decided to admit girls.

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The old pensioners were lied to, and as usual are those who fall for the lies easiest.
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Jun 26 2016, 09:59 PM
Ireland a financial hub ???...Isn't Ireland the Greece of the Atlantic ?????..................... :dunno:
Irish Banking is very strong... Dublin has a strong banking history.

bringing back the industrial 6 Northern counties in a united Republic doubles their strength.
Trump needs to focus more so on the male vote. He should have nationalized the Boy Scouts when they decided to admit girls.

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edro14
Jun 28 2016, 09:36 AM
The old pensioners were lied to, and as usual are those who fall for the lies easiest.
The remain side have been lying and deceiving the public since the Common Market referendum campaign in 1975. Those lies became deep seated in the public mindset but that's changing now and how the remainers hate it.

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Jun 28 2016, 09:36 AM
The old pensioners were lied to, and as usual are those who fall for the lies easiest.
The Pension System(s) are a Ponzi scheme anyway (New participants pay for existing members). They are all doomed to fail. Brexit will be a nice convenient scapegoat for it though. Oh ya baby!
"if that **** wins we'll all hang from nooses"
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Jun 28 2016, 10:04 AM
edro14
Jun 28 2016, 09:36 AM
The old pensioners were lied to, and as usual are those who fall for the lies easiest.
The remain side have been lying and deceiving the public since the Common Market referendum campaign in 1975. Those lies became deep seated in the public mindset but that's changing now and how the remainers hate it.

:cheers:

Other EU countries will follow suit.
"if that **** wins we'll all hang from nooses"
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W A Mozart
Jun 28 2016, 09:02 AM
Scim
Jun 27 2016, 10:54 PM
The old voted to leave, the young to stay. Massive simplification, but roughly true.


The young should demand that any extra costs incurred by brexit are paid by the old. If the finance people are right we need to be prepared to bring forward pension age increases and freeze pension benefits to ensure that the young aren't paying even more for a decision they didn't want. The young have already been milked enough by the baby boomers with tuition fees, soaring rents and cuts to services and benefits for the young while pensions spending increased 25% in one parliament.


Ah! Those stupid old people! Taking away the future, taking away the economic possibilities of the young. Without the EU in their future, a hopeless, dreary life awaits them all! How dare they? Just like the young is Switzerland. No future.

Don't you just love the way the news media and the liberals/globalists/socialists spin a story? Old vs. Young. Simple. Those g'damn old people are destroying the future for us all! We must do something, stop them.

The obvious assumption here of course is that the participation with a massive, faceless EU bureaucracy, accountable to no one, is the friggen future! These guys know best. You betcha. Right. Got it. The Orwellian EU is the future! (Er, didja watch the Brexit video above?) We all got the message here. Spin the vote!

Now, if you're so worried about the YOUNG, and being milked and all of that, and being forced to pay those obscene pensions, might I suggest we place the blame on politicians, liberal/socialist politicians? Kinda like Greece, no? What it's called is spend, spend, spend till the cows come home and then scream "austerity" when someone is forced to pay the bills and make the ends meet. Greece. Socialists. Marxists. The Labor Party. Corbyn. Here in the United States the same FAR left-wingers saddled the YOUNG with over 20 trillion dollars in debt. Shhh! Quiet! Don't tell em yet. With me here? Who cares, we'll all be dead by the time the bill (for the young) comes due. In the UK it's just the same. They Labor Party has already spent the future, and the debt is coming due. Ooops. too bad. No money. I guess we'll just have to raise taxes, ...to 90% ....?


Mozart
The young are unaware of Britain...They have only known EU...They should be disqualified from voting due to their lack of knowledge...If they are unhappy with the Brexit vote, they should move to Germany.............. :lol:
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Jun 28 2016, 10:49 AM
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Jun 28 2016, 10:04 AM
edro14
Jun 28 2016, 09:36 AM
The old pensioners were lied to, and as usual are those who fall for the lies easiest.
The remain side have been lying and deceiving the public since the Common Market referendum campaign in 1975. Those lies became deep seated in the public mindset but that's changing now and how the remainers hate it.

:cheers:

Other EU countries will follow suit.
Let's hope for more votes! Let the people decide.

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It is absolutely fascinating watching the 'liberal/socialist/globalist media go nuts over this. I caught this incredible interview of C. Amanpour doing an interview with Daniel Hannon, one of the leaders of the Brexit movement.

It was incredible, unbelievable. Had I been Hannon I probably would have reached across and slapped the silly bitch. Arrogant. Pompous. Full-of-herself. Catch her smirking midway through the interview. This, ...this is journalism?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivOOM0PbNps



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Jun 29 2016, 08:42 PM
It is absolutely fascinating watching the 'liberal/socialist/globalist media go nuts over this. I caught this incredible interview of C. Amanpour doing an interview with Daniel Hannon, one of the leaders of the Brexit movement.

It was incredible, unbelievable. Had I been Hannon I probably would have reached across and slapped the silly bitch. Arrogant. Pompous. Full-of-herself. Catch her smirking midway through the interview. This, ...this is journalism?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivOOM0PbNps



Mozart
she still thinks she is covering the Gulf War in 1991... and is as popular... she is just another mouthpiece for the left
Trump needs to focus more so on the male vote. He should have nationalized the Boy Scouts when they decided to admit girls.

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Brexit aint gonna happen
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Jun 29 2016, 10:34 PM
Brexit aint gonna happen
Is that as reliable as your other predictions ???............ :dunno:
Edited by Robert Stout, Jun 29 2016, 10:45 PM.
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Watch Austria!

With a "re-do" of the Austrian Presidential elections, the bureaucrats in Brussels will panic!

Not only that, Cristina Amanpour will soon get a bad case of the vapors.... :hooray:

Mozart
Edited by W A Mozart, Jul 1 2016, 09:22 AM.
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