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EU referendum results live: Brexit most likely outcome says leading pollster
Topic Started: Jun 23 2016, 09:09 PM (12,019 Views)
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W A Mozart
Jul 1 2016, 09:20 AM
Watch Austria!

With a "re-do" of the Austrian Presidential elections, the bureaucrats in Brussels will panic!

Not only that, Cristina Amanpour will soon get a bad case of the vapors.... :hooray:

Mozart
Wow.
Had a very busy week, back and forth from UK and CH/IT to take care of a few things this blessed Brexit caused.

I feel sorry for the ones who were manipulated to pull the UK out of the EU .... most of them are the ones who will feel the financial pain most. The manipulators are well cushioned and, as ever, will be landing on their feet while the manipulated will begin to wonder in about six months or less what the hell hit them.
Farmers are already asking where the yearly 3Billion pounds they were getting from the EU will now come from ... and that's just one. Scientists are another very worried group ...

Anyway, let's forget all that. (For now).

WAM? Are you getting somewhat confused? Surely not. Not you. Never.
Let's see.
Your video (BTW, you know who put that video together, right? Of course you do ;) ) and your post above don't match.
You mean to say that Austria was allowed to have their own independent constitutional decisions taken by .... Austrians? What happened to Brussels all powerful though unelected autocrats?

Surely, EU membership signifies annihilation of sovereignty, right? That's what your friends say anyway.

Well, where were you when that silly Cameron man dared to suggest that a referendum could take place?
You should have educated him.
EU=NO sovereignty. What was he thinking? Referendum? From the people? No way. That's not the EU way.

Even so. Please contact Vienna. Do help them to understand that their constitutional independence is a dream from the past. Brussels controls all and everything in this beautiful continent of ours.

When you've done that please reserve some time if you can.
I would like you to meet some of my friends from Eastern Europe.
They have a pretty good idea about sovereignty and lack thereof.

Never mind.
Me thinks you should have a good glass of red or whatever you fancy with our Mr Johnson, the ex Major of London.
He thought Brexit would give him No 10, Downing Street and the PM job.
Well, he missed out big time

As I say, do have a drink with the guy. G&T with only two ice cubes is my recommendation.

Between sips I would suggest you debate, gently please, the connections between insecurity-tribal syndrome as well as populist claims-calls on claims, since calls will be made.

Anyway WAM.
Am heartened to see you care about what's going on in the old continent.
Should you wish to know how decisions are taken in the EU, how MEPs are elected, how the EU parliament works, the relationship between the EU Parliament and the sovereign EU governments, do let me know.
I am lucky to have four MEPs as friends, from three different countries.
As I say, let me know.

There again, you can simply rely on the guys who made that video.
Hey, your choice.

Stef
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Wow.
Had a very busy week, back and forth from UK and CH/IT to take care of a few things this blessed Brexit caused.


Well, well, didja take notes while in Switzerland on how a non-EU member can cope working/living in a Brexit world? :) :) (see, this ain't so bad...!) If the Swiss can do it, so can you! They figured it, and you can too! Right? With me here?

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I feel sorry for the ones who were manipulated to pull the UK out of the EU .... most of them are the ones who will feel the financial pain most. The manipulators are well cushioned and, as ever, will be landing on their feet while the manipulated will begin to wonder in about six months or less what the hell hit them.
Farmers are already asking where the yearly 3Billion pounds they were getting from the EU will now come from ... and that's just one. Scientists are another very worried group ...


Manipulated? by whom? And ALL of those silly "global warming" scientists SHOULD be worried about where their next pay check is coming from. Right? Right! :booboo: They should all go and find themselves proper jobs, something to do with real science. :)

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WAM? Are you getting somewhat confused? Surely not. Not you. Never.
Let's see.
Your video (BTW, you know who put that video together, right? Of course you do ;) ) and your post above don't match.


Was it Goebbels? Was it he and Leni Riefenstahl behind that propaganda video? Who'd a thought!

Let's watch this video again together, shall we? Grab a snifter of cognac, put your feet up and watch the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie-u47gRws0

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When you've done that please reserve some time if you can.
I would like you to meet some of my friends from Eastern Europe.
They have a pretty good idea about sovereignty and lack thereof.


Yes, and I have a lot of friends in Eastern Europe as well. They think the EU is complete bollocks. A monstrosity of insanity the likes of which the world has never seen before. Orwellian. Faceless bureaucrats given the power to make legislation behind closed doors to the detriment of millions of innocent people. "We will decide for the common good...!" Accountable to no one. Wizard of Oz kinda stuff. Who is that man behind the curtain?

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Anyway WAM.
Am heartened to see you care about what's going on in the old continent.
Should you wish to know how decisions are taken in the EU, how MEPs are elected, how the EU parliament works, the relationship between the EU Parliament and the sovereign EU governments, do let me know.
I am lucky to have four MEPs as friends, from three different countries.
As I say, let me know.


Well, the next time you see your MEP's ask them what they do for a living? :rotflmao: :euflag: Ask them how much money they make! Ask them what happens to all of that money from confiscatory taxation go to? A trillion dollar budget, ...for what again? Have them watch that Brexit video (see above) and write-down their comments. Ask them about those "spectacular" GDP growth rates the current EU is enjoying as a result of their efforts. Ask them about how millions of undocumented immigrants are allowed to wander around the EU without any plan of repatriation. Ask them to buy you lunch the next time you meet with them. Believe me, they can afford it!

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There again, you can simply rely on the guys who made that video.
Hey, your choice.


Or you can rely on the so-called journalists to be advocates for all of the boys and girls who are MEP's. Is Cristine Amanpour a member of the North Korean news delegation? I dunno. If she ever gets fired from her "job" at CNN, she can always find a friendly ear over there in Pyongyang. The Great Leader is always right! The EU is always right! No hard questions here,.e.g, such as if you guys are so smart howz come the GDP of the Eurozone is lower than all of the rest of the world, and the taxation the highest? Maybe Ms. Amanpour could ask that of Mr. Hannon. He would have a good answer for that. He knows. I know. The EU is Orwellian insanity. It is killing Europe, by the day, by the month and the years. That's what good journalists do, look at all of the angles to a problem, not take the party line.

I cannot point to worse, more despicable example of advocacy journalism than this video below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivOOM0PbNps

Finally, we gotcha! We've put all of Europe in a tither. The bureaucrats in Brussels are nervous, scared. The gravy-train is being scrutinized. Questions are being asked. What EXACTLY are you doing with all the money that we are sending you? Who made these silly laws, and when was the vote? Who are you people? Now, my beloved Austria will vote again. I'll betcha we get em in October! Scare the hell out of em. People are no longer afraid of being called a Nazi for simply wanting their countries back. Get rid of the rules, the stupid regulations. Give HOPE for the young. Make them entrepreneurs. Encourage them with a deregulated economy. No silly laws. Reduce taxation by one half. Start over. The EU should be abolished, and all of the so-called diplomats, MEPS and bureaucrats should be sent home. Go. Leave. Write when you find real work. :hooray:

Finally, there is joy! We gotcha! No one saw this coming.

Sing it Al Bano! ..... Felicita...! Happiness, ...happiness...!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0wZQbK938Y


Mozart

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"Britain's STOCK MARKET Hits 10-mo High Despite Brexit Hysteria."
July 1st 2016

https://youtu.be/xLbo3rr_D7g
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Jul 2 2016, 11:06 AM
"Britain's STOCK MARKET Hits 10-mo High Despite Brexit Hysteria."
July 1st 2016

https://youtu.be/xLbo3rr_D7g
What? The British stocks have recovered? So soon? I thought Armageddon was just around the corner.

Here in the United States we've had 8 years of anemic economic growth. Depressing. That's usually what happens when you elect a slobbering fraud as President with no experience in, ...anything. Hey! great job on the economy! ...you stupid pinhead. We've had a miserable economy. No growth. Nothing. Peanuts. 2%, maybe 3% at best. The people out of the workforce are at record levels. Fewer and fewer people actually partaking in the economy. Why should I work? Stagnation everywhere you look. A s**tty economy. So much sand (regulations) has been thrown into our economic machinery by the Democrats, that it is all grinding to a halt. Thank the liberals. The socialists. We're catching up with the EU....! :hooray: :box: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-28/u-s-economy-grew-in-first-quarter-at-slowest-pace-in-two-years


No different than what they've done to the EU over in Brussels. Massive bureaucracy. A leviathan. Few employment opportunities for the young. 1% 2% max GDP growth throughout Europe. That's it. Depressing. From the idiots reporting in the media you would think that this is what the young of Europe want (!), this crappola of an economic juggernaut to continue! Their future! Their only hope! The EU...! Right. Sure. The EU will bring about economic prosperity for all, according to Amanpour. Why rock the boat?

Again, watch the Brexit video.

Mozart

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Jun 27 2016, 01:06 AM
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Jun 25 2016, 09:46 AM
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Jun 24 2016, 11:34 PM
Lets be frank folks..

If any of this Brexit, Frexit, etc. shenanigans were actually about making sure that 'the people' were represented by those who truly know them and their area best...ie, local folks as opposed to someone three thousand miles away, there would be a push for a break up of countries into far smaller, far more regional/local jurisdictions. The case for self rule is only sensible, in my view at least, if the governing happens at the (in the US) county or city level where instead of State or Federal politicians mucking things up, it's the locally elected officials. That's the only way people could be governed at an effective level, because really, which do you think represents people best? A group of people in a national capital 3,000 miles away - a group of people in a state capital 300 miles away - or a group of people 3 miles away?

Anyways. This Brexit thing? It's just nonsensical paranoia; it's a sure fire example of people not considering all of the consequences when making a decision.
For people (the whole Western World and Jar personally) who perfectly know how things and life in general work - my remark may look quite routine but still I'll add a couple of words.... :)

ECONOMY RULES

Every American acting president who enjoyed 3% or more of GDP growth during his first term - got reelected regardless to being democrat or republucan or whoever. Everyone who had less than 3 (or maybe 2) % - lost.

Besides, you over there might not have any time spent thinking what democracy is, because you are tought that what you have is exactly the democracy. No sense to comprehend if it is real :)
But it's not as simple. Democracy in the best possible option is the rule of few with agreement of the rest. I mean maximum of real democracy achieved by human kind, not in dreams. It means there is never a democracy in the meaning of "rule of the people", there is no democracy at all as something existing at every single moment, except few instances when referendum is held. And thanks god people don't rule themselves - just look at a common voter. Drudge, for example, or Jake...
So, it's pointless to blame people for benefiting from quite a rare occasion to express their disagreement, just it happens that British elite is too stupid to rule the country, because they thought it is safe to give power to the people in time when GDP growth is less than 3%. Of course whatever is asked from the people - people will vote in protest...or at least it will be quite a big factor.
People are very fool in general.
Your argument is invalid because here in the us it is a democratic republic, a fusion of various things into one. In our government (the republic aspect) it's understood that the majority may rule, but with respect to the (political) minority so that the majority cannot just impose their will and deny rights, etc.
There in the US it is anything but a democratic republic, where not only majority may rule respecting the voice of minority but quite contrarily - minority may rule ignoring the will of majority.
Only in the US they can call it a democracy.
Just remember George Bush who was elecred by minority, your very system is designed not to allow people to express their will freely and directly, at any moment their will can be ignored, in the very system you elect not a person but some other person who as I understend is not even legally obliged to vote as majority voted.
Let alone that if majority cannot impose its will on a certain issue (we are not talking about violating of basic rights) - then it is not democracy.
But don't be upset, you are not alone :) , actually there is no democracy anywhere, wgat countrues really differ in is scale of competition within elite (here the West is really good) and scale of violence required to keep people under control. Before in your prosperous countries it was not really required to boist security forces snd implenent tougher control, but those days are gone, and more with every single day we live.
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Your argument is invalid because here in the us it is a democratic republic, a fusion of various things into one. In our government (the republic aspect) it's understood that the majority may rule, but with respect to the (political) minority so that the majority cannot just impose their will and deny rights, etc.
There in the US it is anything but a democratic republic, where not only majority may rule respecting the voice of minority but quite contrarily - minority may rule ignoring the will of majority.
Only in the US they can call it a democracy.
Just remember George Bush who was elecred by minority, your very system is designed not to allow people to express their will freely and directly, at any moment their will can be ignored, in the very system you elect not a person but some other person who as I understend is not even legally obliged to vote as majority voted.
Let alone that if majority cannot impose its will on a certain issue (we are not talking about violating of basic rights) - then it is not democracy.
I love that you type in a thick Russian accent
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There in the US it is anything but a democratic republic, where not only majority may rule respecting the voice of minority but quite contrarily - minority may rule ignoring the will of majority.
Only in the US they can call it a democracy.
Just remember George Bush who was elecred by minority, your very system is designed not to allow people to express their will freely and directly, at any moment their will can be ignored, in the very system you elect not a person but some other person who as I understend is not even legally obliged to vote as majority voted.
Let alone that if majority cannot impose its will on a certain issue (we are not talking about violating of basic rights) - then it is not democracy.
I love that you type in a thick Russian accent
You can surprise me with your genuine Russian, if you are intelligent enough to speak foreign languages. :lol:
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I love that you type in a thick Russian accent
You can surprise me with your genuine Russian, if you are intelligent enough to speak foreign languages. :lol:
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You can surprise me with your genuine Russian, if you are intelligent enough to speak foreign languages. :lol:
gib borscht amerikan pig dog
you don't need to try looking more American than you are, I mean it's quite convincing already :)
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you don't need to try looking more American than you are, I mean it's quite convincing already :)
Now that's just being mean
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you don't need to try looking more American than you are, I mean it's quite convincing already :)
Now that's just being mean
really? oh, sorry, due to my poor English I might not recognize a friendly compliment..
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EU Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker has accused Brexit campaigners Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage of quitting when things got difficult.

"The Brexit heroes of yesterday are now the sad Brexit heroes of today," he told the European Parliament.

There was anger among MEPs over the UK's 23 June vote to leave the EU.

Mr Juncker spoke of Leave camp "retro nationalists". "Patriots don't resign when things get difficult, they stay," he told MEPs in Strasbourg.
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Brexit leaders 'leaving the boat' - EU Commission boss Juncker
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EU Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker has accused Brexit campaigners Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage of quitting when things got difficult.

"The Brexit heroes of yesterday are now the sad Brexit heroes of today," he told the European Parliament.

There was anger among MEPs over the UK's 23 June vote to leave the EU.

Mr Juncker spoke of Leave camp "retro nationalists". "Patriots don't resign when things get difficult, they stay," he told MEPs in Strasbourg.
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Juncker? Juncker? What, ah, does this guy do for a living?

It seems more likely that PANIC is setting in around all of those lovely office corridors in Brussels. Their world has been rocked, ...shaken. Juncker is your typical bureaucrat, sanctimonious and pompous all at once. He shouldn't worry about 'Farage' or all of our Brexit HEROES. We're coming after YOU, Herrn Juncker,...next! You...! Shut the place down! No more free revenues for, ...you! Get rid of all of those bureaucrats hiding behind their desks. Stop spending 'other peoples money' for their enjoyment. Go! Find real jobs!

Brussels is sending out an SOS signal to all its loopy bureaucrats. Save our Silly Ship....!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvChjHcABPA


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Brexit leaders 'leaving the boat' - EU Commission boss Juncker
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EU Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker has accused Brexit campaigners Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage of quitting when things got difficult.

"The Brexit heroes of yesterday are now the sad Brexit heroes of today," he told the European Parliament.

There was anger among MEPs over the UK's 23 June vote to leave the EU.

Mr Juncker spoke of Leave camp "retro nationalists". "Patriots don't resign when things get difficult, they stay," he told MEPs in Strasbourg.
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Jean-Claude Juncker : "J’ai vu les dirigeants d’autres planètes"
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Encore traumatisé par le Brexit, le Président de la Commission européenne a évoqué face à ses collègues de Bruxelles ses relations avec les extraterrestres...
"ceux qui nous observent de plus loin". Lapsus amusant (inquiétant...) ou confirmation que les petits hommes verts sont parmi nous ?

http://www.agoravox.tv/actualites/europe/article/jean-claude-juncker-j-ai-vu-les-53505

https://youtu.be/4e8grEVGMLA
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really? oh, sorry, due to my poor English I might not recognize a friendly compliment..
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OK, OK, I confess, I am extremely pleased :)
Mostly by the fact that I am right, as usual, and having predicted collapse of the EU, and not just predicted but had given the quite a solid argumentation quite a long ago, I don't remember, 9 or 10 years ago...
But I also welcome Europe wich will be less an American slave and who will put benefits of economic cooperation with Russia higher than expansion of its political and military structures Eastwards.
I am just trying not to hurt your feelings too much with too a vivid expression of joy :lol: . But if you prefer otherwise.... my condolences... :lol:
There's nothing to prove that the EU would collapse because of Brexit. It has already been build to have a major influence in the world as a player with other forces in multipolar world and it's too important to be collapsed because of this kind of change. It will take several years before the real affects of Brexit will start to emerge but for now,


I'd say you should be much more "enjoying" the realities of Russian economy, which is still very much bound to SU type of ruling and ignorance, based on one of the most corrupt societies the entire human race has ever managed to build. :lol:
The Finnish businesses operating in Russia keep telling that in reality there's not much development of products, especially in quality, ongoing in Russia. As I've mentioned earlier that a country such as Russia being the major part of the former SU, is not able to change the human behaviour for humans to become more skilled and more enthusiastic about changing hundreds of years of behaviour based on non-progressiveness (and causing millions of intelligent people being killed) in general.


As you may know, Putin visited Finland last week, and caused just another international controversy by telling a bunch of lies (=Russian illogic based on child-like aggressiveness) in front of international press that Russia has not really caused any problems in the world at all. His output has been scrutinized deeply in the Finnish press, also taking the logical and psychological aspects of Putin and Russian mentality in general.
However, clear threats was made by Putin if either or both Sweden and Finland decides to join NATO.
It is not part of Russian logic, intelligence and mentality to understand that because of PURELY Russian aggressiveness, both Finland and Sweden has been forced by Russia to seek closer relationship to NATO.

Putin has also disappeared - once again - after his visit here. It has never been revealed why he has done so earlier as well. Nothing new about Russian mentality there, coming closer to that of North Korea. In any western nation, this kind of disappearance without ever knowing any reasons why is absolutely non-existent.
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OK, OK, I confess, I am extremely pleased :)
Mostly by the fact that I am right, as usual, and having predicted collapse of the EU, and not just predicted but had given the quite a solid argumentation quite a long ago, I don't remember, 9 or 10 years ago...
But I also welcome Europe wich will be less an American slave and who will put benefits of economic cooperation with Russia higher than expansion of its political and military structures Eastwards.
I am just trying not to hurt your feelings too much with too a vivid expression of joy :lol: . But if you prefer otherwise.... my condolences... :lol:
There's nothing to prove that the EU would collapse because of Brexit. It has already been build to have a major influence in the world as a player with other forces in multipolar world and it's too important to be collapsed because of this kind of change. It will take several years before the real affects of Brexit will start to emerge but for now,


I'd say you should be much more "enjoying" the realities of Russian economy, which is still very much bound to SU type of ruling and ignorance, based on one of the most corrupt societies the entire human race has ever managed to build. :lol:
The Finnish businesses operating in Russia keep telling that in reality there's not much development of products, especially in quality, ongoing in Russia. As I've mentioned earlier that a country such as Russia being the major part of the former SU, is not able to change the human behaviour for humans to become more skilled and more enthusiastic about changing hundreds of years of behaviour based on non-progressiveness (and causing millions of intelligent people being killed) in general.


As you may know, Putin visited Finland last week, and caused just another international controversy by telling a bunch of lies (=Russian illogic based on child-like aggressiveness) in front of international press that Russia has not really caused any problems in the world at all. His output has been scrutinized deeply in the Finnish press, also taking the logical and psychological aspects of Putin and Russian mentality in general.
However, clear threats was made by Putin if either or both Sweden and Finland decides to join NATO.
It is not part of Russian logic, intelligence and mentality to understand that because of PURELY Russian aggressiveness, both Finland and Sweden has been forced by Russia to seek closer relationship to NATO.

Putin has also disappeared - once again - after his visit here. It has never been revealed why he has done so earlier as well. Nothing new about Russian mentality there, coming closer to that of North Korea. In any western nation, this kind of disappearance without ever knowing any reasons why is absolutely non-existent.
Putin could say he made a few mistakes and ask to join NATO............ :rotflmao:
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Wow.
Had a very busy week, back and forth from UK and CH/IT to take care of a few things this blessed Brexit caused.


Well, well, didja take notes while in Switzerland on how a non-EU member can cope working/living in a Brexit world? :) :) (see, this ain't so bad...!) If the Swiss can do it, so can you! They figured it, and you can too! Right? With me here?

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I feel sorry for the ones who were manipulated to pull the UK out of the EU .... most of them are the ones who will feel the financial pain most. The manipulators are well cushioned and, as ever, will be landing on their feet while the manipulated will begin to wonder in about six months or less what the hell hit them.
Farmers are already asking where the yearly 3Billion pounds they were getting from the EU will now come from ... and that's just one. Scientists are another very worried group ...


Manipulated? by whom? And ALL of those silly "global warming" scientists SHOULD be worried about where their next pay check is coming from. Right? Right! :booboo: They should all go and find themselves proper jobs, something to do with real science. :)

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WAM? Are you getting somewhat confused? Surely not. Not you. Never.
Let's see.
Your video (BTW, you know who put that video together, right? Of course you do ;) ) and your post above don't match.


Was it Goebbels? Was it he and Leni Riefenstahl behind that propaganda video? Who'd a thought!

Let's watch this video again together, shall we? Grab a snifter of cognac, put your feet up and watch the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie-u47gRws0

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When you've done that please reserve some time if you can.
I would like you to meet some of my friends from Eastern Europe.
They have a pretty good idea about sovereignty and lack thereof.


Yes, and I have a lot of friends in Eastern Europe as well. They think the EU is complete bollocks. A monstrosity of insanity the likes of which the world has never seen before. Orwellian. Faceless bureaucrats given the power to make legislation behind closed doors to the detriment of millions of innocent people. "We will decide for the common good...!" Accountable to no one. Wizard of Oz kinda stuff. Who is that man behind the curtain?

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Anyway WAM.
Am heartened to see you care about what's going on in the old continent.
Should you wish to know how decisions are taken in the EU, how MEPs are elected, how the EU parliament works, the relationship between the EU Parliament and the sovereign EU governments, do let me know.
I am lucky to have four MEPs as friends, from three different countries.
As I say, let me know.


Well, the next time you see your MEP's ask them what they do for a living? :rotflmao: :euflag: Ask them how much money they make! Ask them what happens to all of that money from confiscatory taxation go to? A trillion dollar budget, ...for what again? Have them watch that Brexit video (see above) and write-down their comments. Ask them about those "spectacular" GDP growth rates the current EU is enjoying as a result of their efforts. Ask them about how millions of undocumented immigrants are allowed to wander around the EU without any plan of repatriation. Ask them to buy you lunch the next time you meet with them. Believe me, they can afford it!

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There again, you can simply rely on the guys who made that video.
Hey, your choice.


Or you can rely on the so-called journalists to be advocates for all of the boys and girls who are MEP's. Is Cristine Amanpour a member of the North Korean news delegation? I dunno. If she ever gets fired from her "job" at CNN, she can always find a friendly ear over there in Pyongyang. The Great Leader is always right! The EU is always right! No hard questions here,.e.g, such as if you guys are so smart howz come the GDP of the Eurozone is lower than all of the rest of the world, and the taxation the highest? Maybe Ms. Amanpour could ask that of Mr. Hannon. He would have a good answer for that. He knows. I know. The EU is Orwellian insanity. It is killing Europe, by the day, by the month and the years. That's what good journalists do, look at all of the angles to a problem, not take the party line.

I cannot point to worse, more despicable example of advocacy journalism than this video below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivOOM0PbNps

Finally, we gotcha! We've put all of Europe in a tither. The bureaucrats in Brussels are nervous, scared. The gravy-train is being scrutinized. Questions are being asked. What EXACTLY are you doing with all the money that we are sending you? Who made these silly laws, and when was the vote? Who are you people? Now, my beloved Austria will vote again. I'll betcha we get em in October! Scare the hell out of em. People are no longer afraid of being called a Nazi for simply wanting their countries back. Get rid of the rules, the stupid regulations. Give HOPE for the young. Make them entrepreneurs. Encourage them with a deregulated economy. No silly laws. Reduce taxation by one half. Start over. The EU should be abolished, and all of the so-called diplomats, MEPS and bureaucrats should be sent home. Go. Leave. Write when you find real work. :hooray:

Finally, there is joy! We gotcha! No one saw this coming.

Sing it Al Bano! ..... Felicita...! Happiness, ...happiness...!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0wZQbK938Y


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