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EU referendum results live: Brexit most likely outcome says leading pollster
Topic Started: Jun 23 2016, 09:09 PM (12,028 Views)
Hughmac

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Jun 24 2016, 04:03 AM
HughMac may be one of those British Ex-pats on a pension and horrified the British pound is crashing today...Don't worry, you have a grove of olive trees and can eat olives 24/7...With some planning , you can return to Britain and be closer to your Queen...With a stiff upper lip, you may become a patriot and respect the wishes of the majority of your fellow citizens....There is always economic uncertainty and instability immediately after a revolution...In the long term, Britain may enter a new golden age of prosperity that was unattainable when being serfs to the EU............. :cool:
Not on a pension, Robbie - work for a living. My worry is about how the Brexit is going to damage the Spanish economy, which is my dinner plate.

As for my Queen, when she dies so does my allegiance to the British monarchy. The Britain that I grew up with has long since disappeared - the Brits are foreigners to me now.

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Jun 24 2016, 04:01 AM
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Jun 24 2016, 12:44 AM
Well, the same idiotic mindset that has voted to leave the EU is celebrating the exit decision among some American posters, which only goes to prove that the UK has not become "too European" but rather hopelessly brain dead a-la-Americana.

This will not only shag the UK, it will shag the EU and the world interlaced economy. Lehman Brothers is peanuts by comparison. The pound has already fallen to 1985 levels.

It will also mean the destruction of the United Kingdom as a combined entity with Scotland and Northern Ireland leaving it in order to stay with Europe. It will also mean that Gibraltar will vote to become Spanish after centuries of being firmly being British orientated.

Now all the world needs is for the cretin brigade in the States to vote in Trump - after seeing what is happening in the UK, I have lost any faith in common sense triumphing over the lobotomic herds in the English-speaking world.

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Hughmac
:cheers: Interesting take. Mind expanding on it? Why do you hold these views?
Certainly, whilst the English yearn for the punch that the Empire gave them - foolishly - Northern Ireland will tip towards reunification with the Republic of Eire. NI without Europe is doomed. Scotland, already hankering for independence, will see the prosperity of EU trade in danger and now demand another referendum, resulting in a definite leave vote in order to remain with the EU. After all, what would you prefer: England vs a European trading block for you future financial security?

Gibraltar will become a island after enjoying the trading benefit of the EU. Spain is going to make that border airtight, believe me and the economy of the Rock will plummet. Over 80% of the Gibraltereños voted to remain precisely because of it. Now the Rock's PM will open negotiations with Madrid to become an autonomous entity within Spain and thus keep its EU trade links intact.

In the meantime, over a million Brits living in Spain will see their work opportunity in peril while the thousands of retired Brits here will see at least 30% of the value of their pensions shaved off thanks to a devalued pound sterling.

As for Spanish tourism, over seven million Brits visit Spain each year - the Brits are the largest foreign tourist sector by far. With a pound worth s**t they can either not afford to come or if they do spend impoverished holidays here. Both of these conditions are going to cause chaos to the Spanish economy without even taking into account the amount of investment the Spanish banks have in the UK.

The fact is, whether these dickhead Brits leave-voter like it or not, the EU is a tumour that is so deeply encrusted on the UK economy that its removal will cause major organ failure.

As for the States, the UK - or what will be left of it - will be of no use whatsoever to the United States because the American interest in the "special relationship" was solely based on the UK influence with the EU. The UK has nothing to offer the USA now, and with the US already looking towards the Pacific as the future, this idiotic decision by the Brits will only hasten the transformation of turning the British Isles into an economic backwater.

The Pound Sterling only enjoys its relative weight because London is a financial hub, but that emphasis will now shift to Berlin.

How the bloody hell can the Brits - epitomized by the gormless UKIP leader - have been so catastrophically short sighted.

Tighten your sea tbelts because this is going to be a tough ride for everybody.

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Hughmac
*nods* Yeah, very well put. That's about what I was thinking over the last few months as I read and listened to various takes on this. *sigh* Ole Britannia is in for a very rough couple of years it appears.

Appreciate your take on this. :cheers:
Edited by lucash, Jun 24 2016, 04:12 AM.
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Jun 24 2016, 04:11 AM
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Jun 24 2016, 04:01 AM
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Jun 24 2016, 01:25 AM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepa-la-Americana.

This will not only shag the UK, it will shag the EU and the world interlaced economy. Lehman Brothers
Certainly, whilst the English yearn for the punch that the Empire gave them - foolishly - Northern Ireland will tip towards reunification with the Republic of Eire. NI without Europe is doomed. Scotland, already hankering for independence, will see the prosperity of EU trade in danger and now demand another referendum, resulting in a definite leave vote in order to remain with the EU. After all, what would you prefer: England vs a European trading block for you future financial security?

Gibraltar will become a island after enjoying the trading benefit of the EU. Spain is going to make that border airtight, believe me and the economy of the Rock will plummet. Over 80% of the Gibraltereños voted to remain precisely because of it. Now the Rock's PM will open negotiations with Madrid to become an autonomous entity within Spain and thus keep its EU trade links intact.

In the meantime, over a million Brits living in Spain will see their work opportunity in peril while the thousands of retired Brits here will see at least 30% of the value of their pensions shaved off thanks to a devalued pound sterling.

As for Spanish tourism, over seven million Brits visit Spain each year - the Brits are the largest foreign tourist sector by far. With a pound worth s**t they can either not afford to come or if they do spend impoverished holidays here. Both of these conditions are going to cause chaos to the Spanish economy without even taking into account the amount of investment the Spanish banks have in the UK.

The fact is, whether these dickhead Brits leave-voter like it or not, the EU is a tumour that is so deeply encrusted on the UK economy that its removal will cause major organ failure.

As for the States, the UK - or what will be left of it - will be of no use whatsoever to the United States because the American interest in the "special relationship" was solely based on the UK influence with the EU. The UK has nothing to offer the USA now, and with the US already looking towards the Pacific as the future, this idiotic decision by the Brits will only hasten the transformation of turning the British Isles into an economic backwater.

The Pound Sterling only enjoys its relative weight because London is a financial hub, but that emphasis will now shift to Berlin.

How the bloody hell can the Brits - epitomized by the gormless UKIP leader - have been so catastrophically short sighted.

Tighten your sea tbelts because this is going to be a tough ride for everybody.

Cheers
Hughmac
*nods* Yeah, very well put. That's about what I was thinking over the last few months as I read and listened to various takes on this. *sigh* Ole Britannia is in for a very rough couple of years it appears.

Appreciate your take on this. :cheers:
Am flattered that you requested my take, Lucash. :cheers:

It's a sad day. The World Economy still hasn't got on its feet from the Lehman Brothers so this latest blow will put it back on its arse again. People just do not suspect how far reaching this is going to be.

Cheers
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Jun 24 2016, 12:44 AM
Well, the same idiotic mindset that has voted to leave the EU is celebrating the exit decision among some American posters, which only goes to prove that the UK has not become "too European" but rather hopelessly brain dead a-la-Americana.

This will not only shag the UK, it will shag the EU and the world interlaced economy. Lehman Brothers is peanuts by comparison. The pound has already fallen to 1985 levels.

It will also mean the destruction of the United Kingdom as a combined entity with Scotland and Northern Ireland leaving it in order to stay with Europe. It will also mean that Gibraltar will vote to become Spanish after centuries of being firmly being British orientated.

Now all the world needs is for the cretin brigade in the States to vote in Trump - after seeing what is happening in the UK, I have lost any faith in common sense triumphing over the lobotomic herds in the English-speaking world.

Cheers
Hughmac
The world is changing ...Try to keep up...This would not have been a surprise to you if you had been better at political analysis....Perhaps the cause of your trepidation is a lack of understanding what the EU is doing to its member States and what was intended for the future....America had a similar conundrum in 1776 and we also chose to have a revolution...While we got rid of the royalists, Britain may need to get rid of the globalists......... :popcorn:
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How did the Leave camp clinch victory in the referendum on the UK's membership of the EU after what was a very closely fought contest?

The Leave campaign triumphed right across England and Wales, winning in large northern cities including Sheffield, the Welsh valleys, across the Midlands including Birmingham, and the south and east of England.
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Well, the British appear to have voted themselves into a devalued currency and a stock market crash, perhaps even a recession.

Democracy sure is awesome.

Though given the way our democracy is going at the moment, I can't really lecture them.
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Well, the British appear to have voted themselves into a devalued currency and a stock market crash, perhaps even a recession.

Democracy sure is awesome.

Though given the way our democracy is going at the moment, I can't really lecture them.
Correction, they elected a recession for the entire global community.
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Jun 24 2016, 12:44 AM
Well, the same idiotic mindset that has voted to leave the EU is celebrating the exit decision among some American posters, which only goes to prove that the UK has not become "too European" but rather hopelessly brain dead a-la-Americana.

This will not only shag the UK, it will shag the EU and the world interlaced economy. Lehman Brothers is peanuts by comparison. The pound has already fallen to 1985 levels.

It will also mean the destruction of the United Kingdom as a combined entity with Scotland and Northern Ireland leaving it in order to stay with Europe. It will also mean that Gibraltar will vote to become Spanish after centuries of being firmly being British orientated.

Now all the world needs is for the cretin brigade in the States to vote in Trump - after seeing what is happening in the UK, I have lost any faith in common sense triumphing over the lobotomic herds in the English-speaking world.

Cheers
Hughmac
The world is changing ...Try to keep up...This would not have been a surprise to you if you had been better at political analysis....Perhaps the cause of your trepidation is a lack of understanding what the EU is doing to its member States and what was intended for the future....America had a similar conundrum in 1776 and we also chose to have a revolution...While we got rid of the royalists, Britain may need to get rid of the globalists......... :popcorn:
Changing? Sure, if you count devolution as "change"... :rollseyes:
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deepa-la-Americana.

This will not only shag the UK, it will shag the EU and the world interlaced economy. Lehman Brothers
*nods* Yeah, very well put. That's about what I was thinking over the last few months as I read and listened to various takes on this. *sigh* Ole Britannia is in for a very rough couple of years it appears.

Appreciate your take on this. :cheers:
Am flattered that you requested my take, Lucash. :cheers:

It's a sad day. The World Economy still hasn't got on its feet from the Lehman Brothers so this latest blow will put it back on its arse again. People just do not suspect how far reaching this is going to be.

Cheers
Hughmac
Not at all Hugh, I've always valued your take on subjects non-US. Well, no I take that back, i've appreciated your take in general actually, now that I consider it further.

Agreed. If my current job has taught me anything it is that people do not always think, even with the most basic tasks or considerations. It's funny really, every one of us on this forum were likely taught by parental figures growing up to think things through and consider the consequences of actions both in the short term and long term. Yet...here we are with yet another example in a long list of cases where a people/populace doesn't necessarily think things through, so it appears. I hope to be proven wrong; I hope to see the various world economies harmed by this referendum recover and the HMS Britain, so to speak, recover, as I do truly adore Britain and consider it a second home given my ancestral connections there.

But who knows right? Stupidity can run rampant.
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Jun 24 2016, 06:06 AM
Two a.m.
Jun 24 2016, 06:02 AM
Well, the British appear to have voted themselves into a devalued currency and a stock market crash, perhaps even a recession.

Democracy sure is awesome.

Though given the way our democracy is going at the moment, I can't really lecture them.
Correction, they elected a recession for the entire global community.
Democracy sure is awesome.

We chose a return to being a self-governing democracy, just like most of the world's countries, and rejected anti-democratic EU bureaucracy.

It's odd that we were told we're too small to survive out of the EU, but now our choices will cause all kinds of problems for the world. To suggest we're expecting 'favours' as some have is just laughable. Last night, when the remain camp imagined they'd won, I was told I had to 'accept the will of the people and get on with my life'. We'll see if they practice what they preach now.

Project Fear lost and we're now seeing its results. The markets hate uncertainty and it's up to David Cameron to undo that fear and restore confidence. If he can't do that he should go now and make way for someone who is up to the job.
Edited by Nan Tucks Ghost, Jun 24 2016, 06:51 AM.
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Jun 24 2016, 06:02 AM
Well, the British appear to have voted themselves into a devalued currency and a stock market crash, perhaps even a recession.

Democracy sure is awesome.

Though given the way our democracy is going at the moment, I can't really lecture them.
Correction, they elected a recession for the entire global community.
Democracy sure is awesome.

We chose a return to being a self-governing democracy, just like most of the world's countries, and rejected anti-democratic EU bureaucracy.

It's odd that we were told we're too small to survive out of the EU, but now our choices will cause all kinds of problems for the world. To suggest we're expecting 'favours' as some have is just laughable. Last night, when the remain camp imagined they'd won, I was told I had to 'accept the will of the people and get on with my life'. We'll see if they practice what they preach now.

Project Fear lost and we're now seeing its results. The markets hate uncertainty and it's up to David Cameron to undo that fear and restore confidence. If he can't do that he should go now and make way for someone who is up to the job.
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Jun 24 2016, 12:11 AM
Now the UK has to worry about rebuilding. The bad thing for them in the short term is that without their former ability to be the voice of Washington in Brussels, they no longer have anything to offer the USA to maintain thier 'speshul' relationship.

They can pretty much look forward to be thrown (and re-thrown) under the bus after the next presidential coronation.
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Jun 24 2016, 12:44 AM
Now all the world needs is for the cretin brigade in the States to vote in Trump -
we are working on that!

last night's results were very encouraging

and yes, I agree, this may bode well for Trump

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Jun 24 2016, 01:10 AM
...are also celebrating the Brexit, as it gives them inner feelings of having some influence in their personal lives.
so you are saying that deep in their hearts, men yearn to be free?

good point
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Jun 24 2016, 06:06 AM
Two a.m.
Jun 24 2016, 06:02 AM
Well, the British appear to have voted themselves into a devalued currency and a stock market crash, perhaps even a recession.

Democracy sure is awesome.

Though given the way our democracy is going at the moment, I can't really lecture them.
Correction, they elected a recession for the entire global community.
At least for Europe. And especially my country, the Netherlands, which is very much dependent on trade.

Thanks but no thanks, Little Britain.

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Two a.m.
Jun 24 2016, 06:02 AM
Well, the British appear to have voted themselves into a devalued currency and a stock market crash, perhaps even a recession.

Democracy sure is awesome.

Though given the way our democracy is going at the moment, I can't really lecture them.
Correction, they elected a recession for the entire global community.
At least for Europe. And especially my country, the Netherlands, which is very much dependent on trade.

Thanks but no thanks, Little Britain.

Don't worry, your future Prime Minister Wilders will liberate Holland from the EUSSR.
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If Cameron is behind this vote, then he's the biggest idiot to walk the face of this earth

You dont hand over your economy to the whims of democracy. What happens if three months from now the British economy crashes and goes into a major depression? Hold another vote? ''Oh, nevermind that vote back in June, that didn't work out too well, we've decided to stay afterall!''
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