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| EU referendum results live: Brexit most likely outcome says leading pollster | |
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| Robert Stout | Jun 24 2016, 02:11 PM Post #141 |
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In the long term the talking heads in media were wrong on Trump and they will be wrong on the economic future of Britain...Why is that ???... You only need to look at who their employers are....The big banks and mercantile class have an agenda which does not benefit the people...They scam the people into believing that globalization is something that helps, not hurts, the average citizen....There are many "good slaves" on Perspectives who worship the likes of Goldman Sachs and believe everything they say...Even Stalin had enraptured supporters with the help of the controlled Soviet media................. :oyvey |
| Jesus can raise the dead, but he can't fix stupid | |
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| Robert Stout | Jun 24 2016, 02:40 PM Post #142 |
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Nationalism encourages quitting the UN...Except those countries who receive foreign aid from more economically self sufficient countries...Thanks for another innovative idea for Trump's Presidential platform.........
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| W A Mozart | Jun 24 2016, 02:48 PM Post #143 |
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So, why did this happen? "It's the immigration, stupid...!"
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/06/how-britain-was-broken Mozart Edited by W A Mozart, Jun 24 2016, 02:48 PM.
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| W A Mozart | Jun 24 2016, 02:53 PM Post #144 |
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What? Say what? The Brits are planning on leaving the UN as well? Where's my Dom Perignon? Where's the bottle of Remy Martin? ...under the couch? I dunno. ![]() ![]() Mozart |
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| W A Mozart | Jun 24 2016, 03:16 PM Post #145 |
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All over Europe, real Europeans are celebrating the first step in getting their countries back, their history back. Get rid of the G'damn bureaucrats, every one of em. No more big government. No more Brussels. No more laws. No more unjust taxation. Stop it. Stop it all. The Brits were the first! Who next? The French? My beloved Austrians? There is great joy tonight. Even in Italy they are celebrating.. Sing it Al Bano! Felicita...! Happiness, ...happiness...! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0wZQbK938Y Mozart |
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| Drudge X | Jun 24 2016, 03:26 PM Post #146 |
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That person should receive an excellent job offer immediately. Edited by Drudge X, Jun 24 2016, 03:27 PM.
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| Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind. | |
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| Siberian | Jun 24 2016, 03:32 PM Post #147 |
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lol, it's either submitting to America, or trying to seduce Russia ![]() though, with the UK it looks more like kamel |
| Goood morning GULAG!!! | |
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| Siberian | Jun 24 2016, 03:40 PM Post #148 |
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Drudge, as usual you don't know what you are talking about, Russian fleet and up to 15000 troops wete stationed in Crimea according to agreement between states, Russia payed for this quite a lot, as well Ukraine, being a bankrupt for decades, failed to pay for Russian gas numerous times and Russia had to count payments for Crimean bases as payment for our gas. As well decades of British troops supressing independence of Belfast is an excellent example, thanks. Edited by Siberian, Jun 24 2016, 03:41 PM.
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| Goood morning GULAG!!! | |
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| lucash | Jun 24 2016, 03:57 PM Post #149 |
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#NeverTrump
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No, that was what you moved to after you were shown to be wrong. That also, was silly. But hey, whatever floats your boat.
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| "...a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is detrimental...having lost the will..to demand...good..." - Rachel Carson | |
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| estonianman | Jun 24 2016, 04:02 PM Post #150 |
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LMAO |
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| Drudge X | Jun 24 2016, 04:18 PM Post #151 |
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Lol...of course, it was convenient for you to leave out the millions of Europeans livin g under the iron curtain.
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| Kate Steinle was separated from her family permanently but leftists didn't seem to mind. | |
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| Harambe4Trump | Jun 24 2016, 05:01 PM Post #152 |
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Feel free to present your argument. |
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Skipping leg day is the equivalent of a woman having an abortion. You're ashamed of it, and it was probably unnecessary. #MAGA #wallsnotwars | |
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| Hughmac | Jun 24 2016, 05:22 PM Post #153 |
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| H4T wrote: [Global] nuclear annihilation is preferable to the pre-Trump immigration/refugee policies. | |
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| George Aligator | Jun 24 2016, 06:29 PM Post #154 |
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Hughmac presents a very British (and very Conservative with a capital "C") reaction to Brexit and its American cheering section. The surprising "Leave" vote strikes me as being a product of the international spread of the new American style of politics. One first notices the bad manners, wild accusations and bogus numbers -- something more recent and more shocking in the UK than here. The class split over Brexit is nothing new, the Labour Party has been waging open class warfare at least since 1945. On the other side, the Conservatives have reveled in a runaway increase in income inequality, a bonanza of new wealth produced by London banks which has made the city affordable for Russian kleptocrats and Arab princes at the expense of British working families. America has led the way in bringing these dispiriting factors to the forefront of national politics. I'd say the British ruling class has become more American and less English. |
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| W A Mozart | Jun 24 2016, 07:21 PM Post #155 |
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Hughmac wrote:
Let's just concentrate on these two sentences, shall we? When you happen to stare into the Spanish heavens this evening, or next evening, pay attention to the strange movements of the stars above you. Things are changing. Look close, it's not quite the same as you thought. Look! You are standing still in your Spanish paradise, as metaphorically your comments have always appear to be in these blogs, yet there are new movements to the earth's rotation. It is displaying a changing universe. It has swept by, yet you've hardly noticed. You're not hearing or seeing what other people are seeing and hearing. The times are changing, and you're not paying attention. The 19th century Germans came-up with a lovely term for this. I wish I could credit it to Goethe, but I can't. It is sweeping above us, unseen and unrecognized. It is the proverbial, ...Zeitgeist. You've missed it. Look again. The world is changing. You need to step back and look harder. First, people are upset, ...all over Europe. In Austria a right wing party came out of nowhere to almost win the Presidency. Now, the OVP, Austria's traditional conservative party, got swamped. Got their butts handed to them. "We don't trust you guys anymore. We're tired of politicians that lie to us." The new party is not "far" right, but merely conservative. We want our country back. We're tired of being told by politicians of both parties that we need to be overwhelmed by new people who don't even speak our language or share our religion. What the hell is this? This is Austria, ...not a permanent refugee camp. Austria! "Rot Weiss Rot bis in den Tod!" ...Schuschnigg. If you ignorant politicians want to help these people, from Syria or Iraq or Afghanistan, teach them about capitalism. Teach them about laws and governance which will fight corruption. Teach them about banking and citizenship. Teach them how to build a country. Second, the idea that Churchill would be aghast at the vote taken today by the citizens of the UK today, as noted in the above quote, is complete nonsense. Churchill? In favor of something like the EU? Really? Bureacrats governing from Brussels? C'mon. Yes, Churchill did want the integration of European countries to prevent war. You betcha. What Adenauer and de Gaulle did was to sign economic agreements which bound the former warring countries together. Nothing more. Good for them. Logical. Churchill was part of that. A great idea. A noble idea. Europe prospered because of capitalism, the free flow of money and ideas and economic common sense. The greatest post World War II leader of Europe, however, was not Winston Churchill, although a very fine man in every respect. It was Ludwig Erhard. His common sense economic ideas were unbelievable, first-rate. There should be a statue of him in every German village. He brought about the "Wirtschaftswunder" that propelled Europe onto a global scale. Churchill himself would be thoroughly shocked at what the socialists/liberals had done to Great Britain. He wasn't for MASSIVE government in Brussels. He wasn't for ridiculous/absurd laws overwhelming the British citizenry. He wasn't for massive taxation on a scale never before seen, to support that monstrosity. He would be stunned to see what left-wing, er wait, ....the FAR left-wing, has done to the UK. You sir, are wrong! Look up into the night sky, the Zeitgeist is moving. My thoughts, Mozart Edited by W A Mozart, Jun 24 2016, 07:30 PM.
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| edro14 | Jun 24 2016, 09:42 PM Post #156 |
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Wales and Ireland will now vote to leave the UK. Britain alone and drowning in their own sorrows. Edited by edro14, Jun 24 2016, 09:43 PM.
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| lucash | Jun 24 2016, 11:34 PM Post #157 |
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#NeverTrump
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Lets be frank folks.. If any of this Brexit, Frexit, etc. shenanigans were actually about making sure that 'the people' were represented by those who truly know them and their area best...ie, local folks as opposed to someone three thousand miles away, there would be a push for a break up of countries into far smaller, far more regional/local jurisdictions. The case for self rule is only sensible, in my view at least, if the governing happens at the (in the US) county or city level where instead of State or Federal politicians mucking things up, it's the locally elected officials. That's the only way people could be governed at an effective level, because really, which do you think represents people best? A group of people in a national capital 3,000 miles away - a group of people in a state capital 300 miles away - or a group of people 3 miles away? Anyways. This Brexit thing? It's just nonsensical paranoia; it's a sure fire example of people not considering all of the consequences when making a decision. |
| "...a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is detrimental...having lost the will..to demand...good..." - Rachel Carson | |
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| lucash | Jun 24 2016, 11:35 PM Post #158 |
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#NeverTrump
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I would prefer not to bang my head against the proverbial brick wall called your ideological stubbornness. |
| "...a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is detrimental...having lost the will..to demand...good..." - Rachel Carson | |
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| Robertr2000 | Jun 24 2016, 11:37 PM Post #159 |
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Yes, the people that voted to remain are complete fools. Countries need to have their own sovereignty. |
| "if that **** wins we'll all hang from nooses" | |
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| lucash | Jun 24 2016, 11:50 PM Post #160 |
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#NeverTrump
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Sovereignty? You mean have politicians govern you from a thousand miles away? Someone who thinks differently than you perhaps? Maybe speaks slightly differently? Despite what some think, Britain is not a monolithic culture, there are regions, subcultures, etc. So....why not go further? Seems that if the argument is about self rule, sovereignty they ought to advocate to go further. |
| "...a mesmerized state that makes us accept as inevitable that which is detrimental...having lost the will..to demand...good..." - Rachel Carson | |
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Anyways, then you went and danced around the truth, and I believe Tsal and maybe someone else kept pointing out you were wrong - but never mind that, as you ducked and dodged as usual, sticking to your ideology.



3:06 PM Jul 11