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US Navy to China: We'll continue operations in South China Sea
Topic Started: Jul 27 2016, 01:57 AM (760 Views)
Eddo26
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http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/26/politics/china-us-navy-chief-south-china-sea/index.html

The U.S. will continue freedom of navigation operations in the South China Sea, a senior Navy officer says, as the region continues to react to a landmark Hague ruling on territorial claims in the disputed waters.

The Obama administration has made it "absolutely clear" to China that the U.S. will continue engaging in flights and naval activities in the disputed waters despite objections from Beijing, Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Mark Richardson said Tuesday.
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Naval demonstrations are a time-honored stage on which to enact international confrontation. The drama goes back as far as the Spanish Armada. It has several advantages to protagonists like the USA and China. First, it is a very expensive game to play, which keeps second-class nations off the stage. Second, naval forces are disciplined and professional, lessening the risk of accidental escalation and things getting out of control, always a danger with land armies. Third, the events occur over the horizon and out of view of citizens and the media, making political manipulations a snap. Fourth, caualties, should they occur, are small in comparison with land war and so are easier for the govrnments to manage.

We should expect a long-term, off-again-on-again confrontation with China's navy. It's not great, but it is a lot better than using land forces or -- God forbid! -- nuclear forces for the purpose.
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George Aligator
Jul 27 2016, 08:35 AM
Naval demonstrations are a time-honored stage on which to enact international confrontation. The drama goes back as far as the Spanish Armada. It has several advantages to protagonists like the USA and China. First, it is a very expensive game to play, which keeps second-class nations off the stage. Second, naval forces are disciplined and professional, lessening the risk of accidental escalation and things getting out of control, always a danger with land armies. Third, the events occur over the horizon and out of view of citizens and the media, making political manipulations a snap. Fourth, caualties, should they occur, are small in comparison with land war and so are easier for the govrnments to manage.

We should expect a long-term, off-again-on-again confrontation with China's navy. It's not great, but it is a lot better than using land forces or -- God forbid! -- nuclear forces for the purpose.
Good points but if casualties occur they'll lead to bigger escalation. And this doesn't improve relationships.
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Is there any reason the US should not be able to sail in the South China Sea?

I'll say we make a deal with China. They stay away from the Pacific and US will not sail in the South China Sea.

Besides, China is making more enemies than friends. India will not back down like China's smaller neighbors. Indonesia needs to grow a spine.
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China to US: We'll being Operations in the Gulf of Mexico.
"if that **** wins we'll all hang from nooses"
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Jul 27 2016, 12:19 PM
China to US: We'll being Operations in the Gulf of Mexico.
It is an historical fact worth pondering that nothing in the long history of China shows any interest in invading and conquering non-Chinese people. This national trait contrasts strongly with Western tradition, which goes back to the Trojan War in a long string of invasions and annexations. Israel is the most recent and probably the last such incident. China shows no interest in the conquest of non-Chinese. We are hassling them off their shores; they aren't going to reciprocate.
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Jul 27 2016, 12:19 PM
China to US: We'll being Operations in the Gulf of Mexico.
Source? I call bullshiatte.

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China says to hold drills with Russia in South China Sea
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China and Russia will hold "routine" naval exercises in the South China Sea in September, China's Defence Ministry said on Thursday, adding that the drills were aimed at strengthening their cooperation and were not aimed at any other country.

The exercises come at a time of heightened tension in the contested waters after an arbitration court in the Hague ruled this month that China did not have historic rights to the South China Sea and criticized its environmental destruction there.

China rejected the ruling and refused to participate in the case.
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Chinese and Russian naval vessels participate in the Joint Sea-2014 naval drill outside Shanghai on the East China Sea, May 24, 2014.
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Jul 27 2016, 03:20 PM
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Jul 27 2016, 12:19 PM
China to US: We'll being Operations in the Gulf of Mexico.
It is an historical fact worth pondering that nothing in the long history of China shows any interest in invading and conquering non-Chinese people. This national trait contrasts strongly with Western tradition, which goes back to the Trojan War in a long string of invasions and annexations. Israel is the most recent and probably the last such incident. China shows no interest in the conquest of non-Chinese. We are hassling them off their shores; they aren't going to reciprocate.
Are you stupid? Wilmy, same question :lol:
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Jul 28 2016, 08:07 AM
China says to hold drills with Russia in South China Sea
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China and Russia will hold "routine" naval exercises in the South China Sea in September, China's Defence Ministry said on Thursday, adding that the drills were aimed at strengthening their cooperation and were not aimed at any other country.

The exercises come at a time of heightened tension in the contested waters after an arbitration court in the Hague ruled this month that China did not have historic rights to the South China Sea and criticized its environmental destruction there.

China rejected the ruling and refused to participate in the case.
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Chinese and Russian naval vessels participate in the Joint Sea-2014 naval drill outside Shanghai on the East China Sea, May 24, 2014.
REUTERS/CHINA DAILY
They are not an alliance. Russia needs to piggy off China to show some muscles. By doing so, Putin only exposes his weakness for relying on China to send a message to the West.
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Jul 28 2016, 02:43 PM
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Jul 27 2016, 03:20 PM
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Jul 27 2016, 12:19 PM
China to US: We'll being Operations in the Gulf of Mexico.
It is an historical fact worth pondering that nothing in the long history of China shows any interest in invading and conquering non-Chinese people. This national trait contrasts strongly with Western tradition, which goes back to the Trojan War in a long string of invasions and annexations. Israel is the most recent and probably the last such incident. China shows no interest in the conquest of non-Chinese. We are hassling them off their shores; they aren't going to reciprocate.
Are you stupid? Wilmy, same question :lol:
Just wondering why, if this is true, there's nothing on the web about it besides your post, which we here have all learned to disregard as caca. Got anything else?

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Jul 28 2016, 02:43 PM
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Jul 27 2016, 03:20 PM
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Jul 27 2016, 12:19 PM
China to US: We'll being Operations in the Gulf of Mexico.
It is an historical fact worth pondering that nothing in the long history of China shows any interest in invading and conquering non-Chinese people. This national trait contrasts strongly with Western tradition, which goes back to the Trojan War in a long string of invasions and annexations. Israel is the most recent and probably the last such incident. China shows no interest in the conquest of non-Chinese. We are hassling them off their shores; they aren't going to reciprocate.
Are you stupid? Wilmy, same question :lol:
No, I'm not stupid, but I have to wonder if you are. Give us a list of non-Chinese nations invaded by China or I will have to conclude that you are really, really un-smart. Pathetic little fellow
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Jul 28 2016, 05:26 PM
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Jul 28 2016, 02:43 PM
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Jul 27 2016, 03:20 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepChina to US: We'll being Operations in the Gulf of Mexico.
Are you stupid? Wilmy, same question :lol:
No, I'm not stupid, but I have to wonder if you are. Give us a list of non-Chinese nations invaded by China or I will have to conclude that you are really, really un-smart. Pathetic little fellow
So you figured out that by me saying "China to US: We'll being Operations in the Gulf of Mexico." that I meant that China was going to begin operations in our very own Gulf of Mexico?? :lol:


Hey Professor... GOT IQ?
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Jul 28 2016, 03:17 PM
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Jul 28 2016, 02:43 PM
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Jul 27 2016, 03:20 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepChina to US: We'll being Operations in the Gulf of Mexico.
Are you stupid? Wilmy, same question :lol:
Just wondering why, if this is true, there's nothing on the web about it besides your post, which we here have all learned to disregard as caca. Got anything else?

See response to Professor George. Professor. :nana:
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Is there another Gulf of Mexico? If not, what the hell did that phrase mean to you?
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Gunboat diplomacy works better when the other side does not have an effective navy...China is developing more missiles that can wipe the 7th fleet off the surface of the Pacific....The Chinese are not impressed by our navy drive-by without shots being fired............. :oyvey
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Jul 28 2016, 05:40 PM
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Jul 28 2016, 05:26 PM
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Jul 28 2016, 02:43 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepChina to US: We'll being Operations in the Gulf of Mexico.Are you stupid? Wilmy, same question :lol:
No, I'm not stupid, but I have to wonder if you are. Give us a list of non-Chinese nations invaded by China or I will have to conclude that you are really, really un-smart. Pathetic little fellow
So you figured out that by me saying "China to US: We'll being Operations in the Gulf of Mexico." that I meant that China was going to begin operations in our very own Gulf of Mexico?? :lol:


Hey Professor... GOT IQ?
:rotflmao:
Gotta admit "We'll being Operations" had me fooled. Why did you capitalize "Operations"? What does "We'll being" mean in English?

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Many of the uneducated are intimidated away from posting by the likes of Aligator and his rowdy band of effete snobs...Emboldened by "Spell Check" and online dictionaries , some courageously stick a toe in the water............ :)
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Jul 28 2016, 06:33 PM
Many of the uneducated are intimidated away from posting by the likes of Aligator and his rowdy band of effete snobs...Emboldened by "Spell Check" and online dictionaries , some courageously stick a toe in the water............ :)
That's not the real gatorman posting.
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Jul 28 2016, 06:33 PM
Many of the uneducated are intimidated away from posting by the likes of Aligator and his rowdy band of effete snobs...Emboldened by "Spell Check" and online dictionaries , some courageously stick a toe in the water............ :)
That's not the real gatorman posting.
Most of the posters insightful enough to see that a post is not by the "real" George Aligator keep this fact to themselves. If trolls like Robert Stout realized that their posts are being squelched by an illegal immigrant using Google translator and the Troll-B-Gone software they would flee to some other bbs and unitedstates.com would begin massive layoffs. Please, save our jobs! Most of us have families to support.
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